You said steve brought up telekinesis. Which I brought up (and you knew, as you commented on me bringing it up). And whether or not you came up with the theories, if you are supporting/defending the theories that you can use qi to move other people without touching them, they are your theories.
So to clarify: Do you or do you not think people can move others without touching them, by flowing qi around them?
So do they or do the not move based on someone moving around them? And are you the person doing the pushing in that original video?
Maybe, could be, it was a clip of my practice that was posted starting this thread..
To clarify, the people are not moved, .they react to
what they feel s moved or affected...commonly referred to as 气场 - Qi field
.Like acupuncture and other TCM practices its based on a different understanding , view point of how the body is thought to work.
Much of it, won't make sense outside of the theory used by which its based on...
Whether touched or not, the process used is the same....
That is a good description of my experience of it. I can't do it, but I have had it done to me and I know it was not a con. I was not going to go along with it if I could resist. And I didn't always know what reaction was expected. It just happened.
If you hold a knife and stab toward
That is true, but that's not at all an example of what I was talking about. The question is can an "attacker" make a move at a person who has their eyes closed and without touching them, make the person move in a direction that the person doesn't even know the move is coming from? One would not think so, but I have seen it and experienced it.
Phantom punch in last part of this video is pretty close. Not moved with eyes closed but with a no-touch punch from behind.
Can someone moves you if you sit on a chair, or lay down on the ground?
I don't know. Never tried it that way. The zombie thing may indeed be brainwashing. My experience was not. I know this because the subjects had their eyes closed and would have had no idea what was supposed to happen, how they were supposed to react, or if they were supposed to react at all. And when it happened, they felt nothing. They did not believe they had moved. But we all saw it. When it was done to me, I also did not think I had moved, but witnesses said that I had. I don't think it was magic. I just think our senses can take in more than we consciously realize and our bodies react to that.
