I really don't see why you continue to try this, but okay, here we go!
Actually the site recommends any of kind of training that you see as effective for YOU IN COMBAT even if they don't see it as authentic bujutsu (which was stated in the article as well regarding training in the X-kans) because its martial arts training.
Koryu.com are you refering to there? Really? Once again, preaching to us (especially to me, of all people here) about Koryu is frankly you being so far out of your depth it's not even funny anymore. And I see nothing about training in something that you see as "effective for you in combat" there in any article either. Mainly because the only time the Koryu guys say things like that is to dissuade someone from training in Koryu itself, as that means you are looking for the wrong things if that's how you're coming to such a study, and it's a nice way of saying "hey, whatever makes you happy, don't let the door hit you on the way out!" A little discernment could help you out a great deal here, Johnny.
The point to take away from that is that if you have the attitude of "only what works", then that's fine.... but thinking that that has anything to do with historical validity is just wrong. And without historical validity, don't think it is anything close to Ninjutsu (or Koryu), no matter what anyone wants to call what they do.
But oh well its your problem to worry about not mine since I'm not concerned with lineage anymore only if the training can save my life when I have to use it.
Here's the thing, though.
If you are attracted to training in Ninjutsu (which you certainly were, and still are), then you are attracted to what you percieved it to be. For yourself, it's some image of what you think is effective combative methods. And with something like Ninjutsu, that is presented by it's historical legacy. In fact, it's that historical legacy that gives the art it's credibility as an effective method. Really, it's the only thing that does.
Now, if you are training in a "ninjutsu" system which has no historical validity or veracity whatsoever (we'll deal with your art in a second), what on earth would make you think that the methods they are teaching are in any way valid? If you're not concerned with lineage, then there is no reason to train in old systems (or ones that claim such age), as the historical lineage is the only thing you have to give credibility. Without it, you could very easily be training in something that has the effectiveness of hitting someone with a wet lettuce leaf (and, frankly, from seeing Ron's videos, that is most likely the case).
Besides check out this video of someone making fun of the style of Ninjutsu entirely:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxKlA9h-Ss&feature=channel_video_title along with pokes fun of how the X-kans have scrolls to back up that they are an authentic ninja lineage and thinks Ninjutsu's effectiveness in the modern world is absurd.
Son, that video seems to be targeting people such as your Ron Collins, Ashida Kim etc. The reference to "scrolls" is not a reference to the Bujinkan, more to those attempting to create the same forms of evidence. Scrolls are actually considered quite good evidence for the credibility of a classical system, you know, having them (genuinely) would be considered a good thing, it's the ones that claim it but have nothing to back anything up are the actual ones targeted there. The "80's book guy" seems to be Ashida Kim, by the way, not Hayes. You may note the spelling is the ill-informed (fake/fraudulant) "ninjitsu" that they're discussing here.
Basically, you just showed a video that makes fun of your group. Nice.
Um I'm studying under Ron Collins which his Ninjutsu is from the Omoto Ryu which is more militant and uses modern day military tactics because of Ron Collins' prior service in the military and I have stated this before numerous amounts of times
http://www.dojopress.com/catalogbk80.html
Except for the fact that the only recorded "Omoto Ryu" disappeared a few centuries ago, there is no connection to Japan (other than Ron constantly saying that one of the teachers lives there.... but never stating that the teacher is Japanese, that the art is, that the teacher was born there, or anything of the kind, instead giving the impression that this "teacher" moved to Japan from the US or Canada... oh, and did you notice which in the little "puppet show" was Ron?), modern military tactics are completely irrelevant to a "ninjutsu" system, Ron's military claims are highly dubious, and self contradictory in a large number of places (to the point where he eventually said that the reason was that he deliberately put lies out to see if anyone would accept them[?!?!], despite that being a criminal act), and his tactics (as demonstrated on his videos) show a complete lack of knowledge, understanding, skill, ability, insight, and more, to the point that he shows some completely ill-advised and downright dangerous (to the practitioner) methods, especially where firearms are concerned. All of which you have been told and made aware of many times before as well (hence my wondering why you keep coming back with this stuff).
Oh, and that book looks hilarious, by the way... but in no way factual, realistic, effective, intelligent, or good in any traditional sense of the term.
Ashida Kim's Ninjutsu descends from the Kimitake clan like he states in his FAQ so we're as different as night and day
http://ashidakim.com/index.html#faq
No, you're as different as night and five minutes later that night.
Case in point is that Ron is part of Ashida's group (under his own name there, but the association is definately there). From there we get the "Kimitake" clan. Not really sounding like a Japanese name to my ears there, gotta say, at least, not a surname. It's a first name.
Oh, and that site is hysterical! The number of mistakes, problems, incorrect information, spelling errors, historical inaccuracies, and so on are fanastic! Needed a laugh, thanks!
Also we have a different syllabus and techniques so much to your dismay and disappointment I can only use bits and pieces of Ashida Kim's Ninjutsu in my training in Omoto Ryu.
Both are made up from nothing, though. So no matter how much you use of either, you are still not training in Ninjutsu. Gotta tell you.
Seriously, you need to come up with much better stuff than this.
