What the President did was great! It was balsy! It was courageous! If anyone says otherwise, it's because their ideology has blinded them! Obama as one of his campaign promises vowed to hunt bin Laden where-ever he may be and he came through. I am by no means an Obama fan in general, but the moment I heard the initial press conference, I was immensley proud of him.Waterboarding worked and it worked as it is intended to work. No-one gave up valuable information when being waterboarded, that's not how it works. The individual is asked questions that the interrogator already knows the answers to when the individual in question is being waterboarded. When the idividual eventually breaks, they begin to give the truthful answers to these questions. After the coersed interrogations are stopped the interrogator will continue to aske questions that he already knows the answers to, until he is satified that he can then gain valuable previously unknown intel. The method worked.In short, I am proud of President Obama for going into a foreign country's souvreign territory, without authorization (suppossedly), to execute a piece of **** who ordered thousands of US citizens dead. I am also proud of the previous administration's tactics that lead to the intel that lead to the location of UBL. Good job lads!!
I haven't seen any relatively unbiased source support the notion that the intel key in leading to OBL's location was obtained from Gitmo. If you have some please provide it, but don't waste your time linking me to a fascist righty rag.
This assassination, in my opinion has opened Pandora's box. Everyone is now fair game anywhere any time and in any country.
While I believe the target might be trained a bit more on us again right now, I don't necessarily think we have opened a box we hadn't already opened, what with prosecuting nazi fascists 70 years down the pike, finding, trying and executing Saddam Hussein, etcetera. We've been getting away with a lot for a long time. OBL, on the other hand, was one of the richest men in the world. It takes money to **** people up.
some people only seem to understand terror. Do you really think a terrorist, an extremist, someone who is so dedicated to ending our existence that they will give their own lives will actually react in the way we want to anything else? Maybe we need to be extra nice and say pleaseeeeeee
ummm ya that will work..
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And I guess no matter how many people who have been tortured that say they would lie and told you they **** gold to get the torture to stop would skew your view on that eh? Even the fact that our very own government trains spies and special agents to cope with torture doesn't mean other nations do the same and we have the magic wand that negates the possibility that others could lie to us during torture, eh?
None of that matters because you find it comforting that with all the suffering and death and disfigurement and other ongoing horrors Al Qaeda thrust upon us that the individuals at Gitmo get waterboarded and spout ****. Their suffering gives you comfort because we suffered and thus, that makes it all okay, right?
And that's not an emotional reaction that has been fostered in any way to help certain people justify certain actions that by definition remove our status as a human rights nation, right?
*shakes head*
So ... if it's okay to torture people for information which will likely be false information anyway ... is it okay for Americans to be tortured for information that would most certainly be lies anyway? Since, you know, we killed a BUNCH of people over there and stuff.
