I believe you would have a different perspective if you were the one who had to advertise and market a school to attract people who are seriously looking for self-defense. You make the assumption that they don't know what to look for. In my experience I have often found that my school was not the first school that they checked out, nor was it the first school they trained in. They have requirements for what they expect of training and if your school doesn't meet those requirements then they will choose not to be a part of your school.
Consistency is why different systems get different names. You can't get consistency by have something with the same name doing 2 different things. This is why you don't say BJJ is the same as Japanese Jiu-jitsu they are not the same thing.
People will accept an easy way out.
What about him? We are good at some things and better at others. What's your point?
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Good points for sure, boxing is a hands only style and definitely will struggle against any style that uses more than hands, however if we just focus on hands, let’s say the world it’s champ or the world karate champ went hands only using there own style of movement and rounds time limit against any boxing champ from the last 10 years, who would you bet your money on
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You said people do martial arts for a variety of reasons, absolutely and it’s all good, my 11 year daughter started tkd 6 months ago, great for flexibility cause she was stiff as a board, great for fitness cause she’s lost weight, great as a social club making friends cause she was shy, great for building confidence cause standing up doing patterns in front of the class takes guts. Also sparring even though it’s soft touch gives an idea of how to fight.All these things are important in a street fight flexibility, fitness,confidence etc. But would she beat a judo, bjj, mauy Thai, we can love our style but let’s be honest about why we do it, what it’s benefits are and what it’s limits are
That's just how some humans are. If you don't have the power to change this about human nature then it's pointless to make it an issue. The reality is that some people will take easy way out. The only thing you can do create a school that fits your ideal student. If you want a school that will be full of people who don't quit, then advertise to those type of people and that's all you'll have for students.
Yep. and I tell you why. Because there are people out there who are looking exactly for something like that. They aren't looking for the "no quit school" or the "work out hard school." An example during my first year training in the Jow Ga school that used to be in Georgia. An ex student's parent came to visit the school to show off his daughters black belt and how soon she got it. He told his daughter to show us her black belt form. It was horrible, the girl didn't have confidence and she knew that her form was horrible. Kids are young not stupid, they know when someone does something better than they can. She saw how her old classmates were training and you know it was an instant comparison. But that's not the point. The point is her father took her out of the Jow Ga school and enrolled her into another school who claimed that their training was more healthy for children. The father told us that his daughter didn't have to worry about injury to her joints from the impact of punching a pad. The girl was about 10 years old.
There is a difference between knowing what it takes to learn something and being willing to do it. I know what it takes to be a doctor, but I'd easily settle for something easier. It can be frustrating sometimes to deal with people who always want the easy way out because their logic makes no sense to use. But sooner we can accept that there people like that, then the less time we'll spend on pointing them out and more time focusing on things functional martial arts that can be used in fighting. Instead of pointing out people who would never train where you train or see martial arts as the same as you do.
I agree. Some people will do that. For me personally recognizing my limits are just as important as recognizing my strengths. I tell all of my students "fight where you are strong, not where you are weak." The only way to do such a thing is to recognize my limits and then make sure that no one manipulates me into fighting where I'm not effective.
yep. Everyone learns the same techniques, but not everyone learns how to apply it. So if fighting is a 10 step program then one school stops lessons at step 7 and the other stops the lessons at step 10. With 10 being fighting competition and 9 being applications sparring on a resisting partner / attacking partner.
Learning how to apply techniques is different to learning what the techniques are.
How?
But it's the same system. You can't learn the application of a technique without learning what the techniques are. If I teach you how to jab, then you will see the technique before you learn it. You will train and drill the technique before you can use it. Just because it's 2 different things does not mean it's a different system.
