Edmund BlackAdder
<B>Rabid Wolverine</B>
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You lack the training to understand.RoninPimp said:-Please elaborate. I've watched it several times.
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You lack the training to understand.RoninPimp said:-Please elaborate. I've watched it several times.
Edmund BlackAdder said:Don't you have to go cuddle with some hot sweaty Gracie wannabe to test those mad UFC skillz of yours?
Edmund BlackAdder said:Ah, the sewer denizen traditional response. You forget your location mudpit trollkin. The details are there, here, on MAP, on EBudo, on BudoSeek, even in that sewer USENET. I can't be bothered to spoon feed it to you.
In fact, some of the answers are in this thread, but you will refuse to acknowledge them as you'll only be happy if you get to beat up an old man (or rather try) so you can proudly bang on your inbred chest on how your mad UFCfu is so great, again.
-So you refuse to argue your point with evidence? Will you later claim you won this argument too?You lack the training to understand.
What you see is only part of the picture. The other part you will never get from the video even though it is right in front of your eyes, is the feeling of it. I could sit here and try to explain to you how to have a powerful punch without having to use an enormous amount of strength and you would say "yeah sure...", but if I demonstrated to you (at 10% speed) the punch only once, you would immediately go WOW that is amazing! I have personally witnessed LEOs who have years of police training yell out "Holy ****, I never would have known it was that powerful!" My advice is, find a good Bujinkan instructor nearby, I am sure they will be happy clarify these concerns (meant in a humble way).RoninPimp said:-Please elaborate. I've watched it several times.
Please have a little maturity with your posts.RoninPimp said:-Details please. Otherwise ****.
Yes. and, Yes.cfr said:Curious, have you ever been cuddled? Ever not been able to get someone off of you that you outweigh by 60 lbs, and knowing that if you bite him, he will bit you back from a much better vantage point? As stated several time, Im a middle of the roader between sport and SD, but reading comments like these make me realize how clueless SD purists really are about the sport guys.
Sorry pump, but posting a dozen links isn't on my todo list today.RoninPimp said:-So you refuse to argue your point with evidence? Will you later claim you won this argument too?
-I have shared training space with Bujinkan guys. I have felt some of their techniques. I was not impressed. The problem I have with that argument is many things hurt when demonstrated, but can't be pulled off in a similar fashion when resistance is met. Thanks for the insult free discussion.Bigshadow said:What you see is only part of the picture. The other part you will never get from the video even though it is right in front of your eyes, is the feeling of it. I could sit here and try to explain to you how to have a powerful punch without having to use an enormous amount of strength and you would say "yeah sure...", but if I demonstrated to you (at 10% speed) the punch only once, you would immediately go WOW that is amazing! I have personally witnessed LEOs who have years of police training yell out "Holy ****, I never would have known it was that powerful!" My advice is, find a good Bujinkan instructor nearby, I am sure they will be happy clarify these concerns (meant in a humble way).
-This was not directed at you. I only give back what EBA gives first. Everybody else has been great, even if they disagree.Bigshadow said:Please have a little maturity with your posts.
RoninPimp said:Whenever you want to get on the mat to train, you just let me know. The first class is always free. We'll see if you still refure to it as "cuddling" afterwards. -RoninPimp
Blotan Hunka said:You dont want to show diserspect to the demonstrator by resisting which is only polite and you are there to let him demonstrate techniques after all.
-For the record. I did not post what EBA posted as my quote. It was part of negative feedback I gave EBA for his never ending insults.Edmund BlackAdder said:No thanks. I have competent training options at hand. Just for the record, I will always refer to it as "cuddling", even if Royce himself pops every joint in my body. It just might be hard to make out, what with all the screaming, moaning and gasping I'd be doing. Wait. That sounds rather obscene. Ah...forgitaboutit.
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Sorry to hear that. There are many other factors involved there as well, try going to a seminar, you might get a better sampling. -- No offense intended to the guys you trained with.RoninPimp said:-I have shared training space with Bujinkan guys. I have felt some of their techniques. I was not impressed. The problem I have with that argument is many things hurt when demonstrated, but can't be pulled off in a similar fashion when resistance is met. Thanks for the insult free discussion.
-So how do those concepts apply to the unrealistic techniques Hatsumi demonstrates?Bigshadow said:There is a key factor that is over-looked regarding our training (structural integrity). The key to being able to resist is having balance, meaning... hips over feet, shoulders over hips, head over shoulders. Just like playing Jenga, you start moving the pieces out of alignment the structure becomes an unstable base from which to launch attacks (and this is only a basic elementary part, there is FAR MORE) and resistance becomes futile... Sure I could try a wrist lock on you while we stand toe-to-toe and you are are balanced, and you will be able to resist it. Let me change your structure slightly, now it is futile to try and resist.
Try having someone take you off balance (backwards) where you have no support, no matter how strong you are, you cannot pick up either foot without falling or being crushed. There are many other factors but this is a simple and overly exagerated demonstration.
I won't say anymore about it, just "feel" it.
That my friend you are going to have to figure out for yourself. We cannot all be spoon fed.RoninPimp said:-So how do those concepts apply to the unrealistic techniques Hatsumi demonstrates?
If you are ever in central Florida and would like to do a little training with us, let me know, we would be happy to have you visit. Maybe we could answer your questions.RoninPimp said:-So how do those concepts apply to the unrealistic techniques Hatsumi demonstrates?
Bigshadow said:Sorry to hear that. There are many other factors involved there as well, try going to a seminar, you might get a better sampling. -- No offense intended to the guys you trained with.
Your welcome!
-I would argue that if the concepts and techniques of Hatsumi's teachings are real and practical, then it could be explained with words or video that wouldn't require my $ and/or a huge time comitment.That my friend you are going to have to figure out for yourself. We cannot all be spoon fed.