Originally posted by Fastmover
Detour From Doom
Ok, maybe I'm having one of those mental block days today, I dont know.
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Mike
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Originally posted by Fastmover
Detour From Doom
Originally posted by Fastmover
Wouldnt it be great if someone could get one technique to work
against everything?
Switching to lower case does not change the idea that you are using a single tech.Originally posted by MJS
Ok, maybe I'm having one of those mental block days today, I dont know.I thought that he was saying that he could do 5 Swords against a kick. Detour from Doom is a totally different tech. IMO, doing a modification is making a slight change, not doing a separate tech.
Mike
Originally posted by MJS
Ok, maybe I'm having one of those mental block days today, I dont know.I thought that he was saying that he could do 5 Swords against a kick. Detour from Doom is a totally different tech. IMO, doing a modification is making a slight change, not doing a separate tech.
Mike
Originally posted by satans.barber
Wouldn't it be great if people had no need to learn techniques.
Ian.
Originally posted by Old Fat Kenpoka
Either way, it is not how many techniques you learn and it is not how well you understand the concepts behind the techniques. What matters is whether or not you can APPLY the concepts and make however many techniques you know WORK.
Originally posted by Old Fat Kenpoka
Until the Tracy's Bros started adding techniques and variations, EPAK had 128 techniques + 32 extensions. Somehow this grew to 250 techniques for EPAK and 600 variations for Tracy's. But the core concepts remained the same.
It goes back to my earlier point about how you train. Memorization is required for larger curriculums. This memorization is a Zen method of teaching the concepts: learn the movements properly and the concepts will be learned subconsciously. The alternative is to learn core techniques, learn concepts, and then use the concepts to extend the core techniques.
Either way, it is not how many techniques you learn and it is not how well you understand the concepts behind the techniques. What matters is whether or not you can APPLY the concepts and make however many techniques you know WORK.
Originally posted by Fastmover
Conceptional learning with no structure is very difficult in the beginning in my opinion; however, there are those who can do it.
The structure is designed to teach principles. If you win the fight
and you didnt know which technique you did with its extension.
so what! The point is you won the fight.
Originally posted by Touch'O'Death
No, all the techs are not needed. It would be like saying you need to know every word in the dictionary before carrying on a conversation. What you do need is a little common sense, a few basic technique ideas, and a great big strong punch off the back hand. Only losers demand that a person to quit for not thinking the same lame way they do; so, don't be discouraged by comments from the peanut gallery.
Sean
Originally posted by Touch'O'Death
Its a pure kenpo thing us ma's don't seem to grasp; alas, we are lost to the ways of the world, I suppose.
Originally posted by Kenpo Yahoo
Now I can cover 8 attacks with one technique, instead of having to learn 8 different techniques with 8 different approaches. Someone likened kenpo to the english language and even proceeded to use mock sentences to illustrate their point.
Originally posted by Fastmover
Why didnt
Mr. Parker keep all the varations of this technique in his system?
Originally posted by MJS
The techs. should be the ingredients for what you are cooking. Rather than try to rely on your memory, you should be reacting. I say to them, when they look at me with that puzzeled look, "Do you know how to block? Do you know how to punch? Do you know how to kick? Do you know how to move? They answer yes to all of these. I then say, "Well, who cares what you do, but do something. Dont just stand there!" Use the tech as a base to create something on your own. Dont just rely on that one tech of the many that there are, to defend yourself.
Originally posted by Kenpomachine
You are a martial artist , and so, you need to be able to create too. If you'd keep all of the posible variations for a certain attack, then you'll lose focus in the main point. And also, as said wonderfully (IMO) by MJS
Originally posted by kkbb
Would it not be wiser to adapt one defense created for one attack to defend against similar attacks. In other words, a reverse punch done to the head, or chest, or low, would be best dealt with by one single defense....would it not? Don't most people in epak or any other multiple technique system "freeze" when confronted by the same attack done with different variables.... because they have to stop and think about 3 or 4 different techniques taught to them to negate minor variations in the attacks (ie straight punch, different angles)? Or do they "explode" into some "technique" that doesn't look anything like they have learned, and therefore are taking a 50/50 chance that it would work or that they could make it work? And if our instructors want us to "expand" or think outside of the box...why do they bother to teach techniques? Why not just concepts? Let the student put it together?
Take a kid to candy store and he will surely take forever to make up his mind, but take a kid to hardware store that only has one candy machine his decision is easy!
Less techniques ("i'd rather have 6 that work than 24 that don't") in mho is better!