In Texas, it's legal to shoot someone if you catch them in the act of vandalizing your car.I imagine though that the investigating police don't take it at face value that the person broke in.
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In Texas, it's legal to shoot someone if you catch them in the act of vandalizing your car.I imagine though that the investigating police don't take it at face value that the person broke in.
There's the same point though. Police officers turn up to a car, a body and a car owner with a gun. Do they just take the car owner's word for it or do they investigate?In Texas, it's legal to shoot someone if you catch them in the act of vandalizing your car.
To clarify, it's not specifically your car. Texas law allows the use of deadly force to protect property, as well as people. Other places limit it to people only.There's the same point though. Police officers turn up to a car, a body and a car owner with a gun. Do they just take the car owner's word for it or do they investigate?
I think Tez is referring to all the flak the UK gets in online forums when they investigate a "self defense" shooting. She is making the point that investigations are made everywhere... not just in the UK.To clarify, it's not specifically your car. Texas law allows the use of deadly force to protect property, as well as people. Other places limit it to people only.
Do the police in the UK investigate?
Of course they do. It's sort of a ridiculous question.
In Texas, it's legal to shoot someone if you catch them in the act of vandalizing your car.
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I do not know. I'm not a lawyer. I know about Texas law because I lived there for a time, and I have a daughter who still lives there. Which means I go there to visit.Is that a common thing on US states? Or is Texas a bit of an outlier when it comes to that?
Here is the thing.... its not important or even relevant, what happens in the 49 other states. It only matters what the law says in the state where you are during the altercation. Thats why it is important for people to find out what the local law is, where they are. If you live in an outlier state, where you have a duty to retreat... and you use your baseball bat, without retreating.... it does not matter that in most other states, you would be cleared.... you would still be guilty of not retreating. That may change what you did, from "self defense" into assault with a deadly weapon. You could be charged criminally and have jail time and or have a civil suit filed against you... even the lawyer you need to defend yourself will drain all your finances and probably put you in debt for a while....Is that a common thing on US states? Or is Texas a bit of an outlier when it comes to that?
Actually, justification varies as well. California has some of the strictest gun laws in the nation. In California there is a legal presumption that someone forcibly entering an occupied home is there to commit rape, robbery, murder, or mayhem, all of which are legally justified reasons to use deadly force with no requirement to retreat. This means that the attorneys of the perpetrator must first overcome that legal presumption before any sort of criminal charge can be initiated against the defender. The rub is that none of that will prevent civil cases being filed. It doesnāt matter what kind of weapon was used, if any.A baseball bat would have less clean up that a gun in a break in.
Regardless of the state you still have to justify killing someone. Which I assume is generally a painful process best avoided. And at 3 in the morning possibly not something you want to have to do.
Otherwise I have one of those cold steel beat you to death walking sticks. And my theory is it can be a walking stick untill it isn't. Which gives it a bit of camouflage.
Texas is a bit of an outlier -- but not exclusive. In most states, you'll have a hard time justifying lethal force to defend property (outside of some exceptions like nuclear secrets). Texas has a very broad statutory interpretation of the Castle Doctrine. In brief, the Castle Doctrine lets a person assume that that someone breaking into their home -- their "castle" -- intends to do them serious harm, and may justify the use of lethal force without further retreat. That's a really brief summary, and there is a lot of nuance state-to-state. The Texas law can be found HERE. For comparison, HERE is an article on Virginia's self-defense laws.Is that a common thing on US states? Or is Texas a bit of an outlier when it comes to that?