What, precisely, are you claiming are the fundamental differences between kicking with the shin (not "chin") and instep? What, in your deep, many decades of experience, am I missing?
5 reasons TaeKwonDo as a system (not individual techniques) breaks down in a Muay Thai ring
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Axiom
Black Belt
They knocked them out with punches to the face.
How do you kick a bag with your chin?
MA_Student
Black Belt
Chin butting is the ultimate weapon in martial arts now lol
Hey, if you're pissed enough....
You were there then. You can verify they didn't use even one Judo throw as witnesses say they did?
I don't know, just reporting what has been said, always worth looking at all the witnesses' accounts. You're the man with all the answers, you must have been there.
I rarely drink though and never get pissed. Seen a few Glasgow kisses though, big ouch. Our instructor actually taught us how to do a proper headbutt!
MA_Student
Black Belt
Okay I'm done with this thread I feel like I'm losing the will to live reading all this nonsense
A professional MT fighter only has 6 years of their life that can be spent in the ring. Since not that many MA systems train as hard as the MT system, IMO, to compare MT with other MA system is like to compare "professional" and "nonprofessional". It's not fair.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
And for things like head kicks. Which you would probably expect from a TKD fighter instep is fine.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
How long has mark hunt or Wayne parr been going for?
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
OK. But head kicks?
Agreed. The more I work with shin kicks, the more I wonder why NGA teaches instep kicks. Shin fits us better.
paitingman
Brown Belt
Do you think a Muay Thai match is two fighters taking turns comboing on each other with no natural breaks in the fight? Just two people hitting the other non stop?
paitingman
Brown Belt
1. Thai footwork is not as rock solid as you seem to think it is. It is very balanced in motion, but always very light on the front foot. This backweighted stance is great for checking kicks, but poor for movement and is also a little unstable. Thai fighters knock eachother around quite a bit actually.
TKD footwork is far beyond MT in mobility and distance control. This is the main strength and it is pretty effective against MT. At long range TKD dominates.
Both footwork styles have their strengths and requirements.
MT-nerves/legs of steel. TKD-agility and stamina for days.
2. The main strength in the kicking style is the fast, non-telegraphic, linear nature of tkd kicking. And tkd practitioners are very used to people trying to kick them in this manner and get very good at avoiding them. High level tkd sees every MT kick from a mile away and has the footwork to avoid it.
TKD fighters are also generally very skilled in landing and avoiding headkicks.
Basically TKD's non telegraphic and extremely fast kicks are difficult for other styles to see coming and deal with.
3. The hands are a toss up. They can be trained to a high level in either system. I've seen fighters in both styles have incredible boxing skills.
The main difference is the guard and tactics. Again TKD/Shotokan striking thrives long range. The main defenses for punching are parries and footwork/movement. Where as MT goes with a high guard/cover. Good for deflection and elbow delivery, but harder to use sophisticated hand strikes.
4. No striking art can touch Muay Thai's clinch game. This is the heart of Thai Boxing to me. The unique flavor
5. I already made a point on this in another post, but there are always natural breaks in a match. Be it TKD, MT, Boxing. There is distance finding and chesswork in each discipline.
This is what I have found to be true in my personal experience
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
A bit quicker.
I'll have to consider that. I'm not sure mine are, but I'm not a fantastic kicker.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
There is even a thai kick that almost hits with the inside ankle.
