MBuzzy said:
Could that movement also be intended as a simultaneous strike to the knee and chest? With the intent of breaking the knee and pushing the attacker over, rather than a throw?
Yes, but you want to keep your mind open and you want to think about the effectiveness of what you are describing. What is the percentage chance that YOU could pull it off. Maybe someone else or your teacher can make the application above work. I can make the one I described work. This is how we personalize our hyungs.
Also, I'm curious on your take on the slow pushing movements following the double kwon do kong kyuk and reverse kwon do kong kyuk.
In certain styles of kung fu, there are techniques called long arm strikes. You perform these by using your forearms as bludgeons with the usual target being the neck. These strikes, I have been told in the states, are called Ta ko shik. I was told that this means seizing and smashing. So what you are doing with these techniques is grabbing a part of your opponent and smashing them in the neck with your forearm.
This is one of the areas that you can see the kung fu influence in Yuk Ro and TSD in general.
There are two inhale and exhale movements, pulling both hands in toward your body and then pushing away slowly.
This movement can be interpreted as pushing someone away, but that is only half of the movement. The other part where you drop down and circle your hands behind you is a duel wrist release. So, the full application is a duel wrist release that pulls your uke off balance AND then comes the push (which can also be a double strike!).
Another interpretation of this move takes into account the level change of the technique. Imagine dropping under a persons guard and grabbing a single or double leg. The "push" now becomes the levering action that you would need to dump your uke on his head.
These are the movements that I am really interested in. I've been having the discussion with my instructor and his interpretation is that they are simply pushing your attacker away from you - of course, his english isn't so good sometimes.
Please keep sharing your training in this form with us. I'm very curious as to how the Koreans are doing it compared to how Americans are doing it.