That's how I view life in general. Everything you learn, build, or love will come to nothing. You will grow old, sick, useless and die. All is vanity.
Denial is your friend!
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Denial is your friend!
That's how I view life in general. Everything you learn, build, or love will come to nothing. You will grow old, sick, useless and die. All is vanity.
Denial is your friend!
I disagree, you should make the best use of the time you have available. Time is short. There is not time for deceiving yourself to be worthwhile.
That's what my grandad always said. He's dead.
....Seriously though, If that's what you believe, why are you wasting time on this forum talking to the likes of me?
Yep. For the other guy!
OK, I admit that I just said that to make you happy. Did it work?
Not really, but I'm already a happy guy. Not to worry. I was just wondering if there's anyone subscribing to this theory that can honestly say their arms have bent like bows and sprung like springs all of their own like that in a real fight. Sounds like it was made up during chi-sau.
That's what my grandad always said. He's dead.
....Seriously though, If that's what you believe, why are you wasting time on this forum talking to the likes of me?
Entertainment is important, and I might learn something. I think this is why KPM's posting style is frustrating; there is never any intention to convey information. At least someone like Joy signals their lack of desire to convey information by not saying much.
wckf92
Master of Arts
I think the reluctance may come from the limited view folks get through text-based discussions...and also that we all seem to view certain aspects of WC drills in a completely different context. Not to mention strategy.
Personally, I've learned quite a bit from reading forums like these. It has helped me let go of "kool aid drinking" and to realize that the WC versions and interpretations are a vast ocean. Take for example you and LFJ's view on WSLVT. I now think I understand it much better and, in lieu of crossing hands with someone from your lineage, can appreciate your comments; whether I agree or disagree. I'd still like to cross hands with someone from WSLVT someday but for now I'm limited to forums.
Not made up in chi-sau, but definitely trained in chi-sau. Actually, I think it works more often than you think, Muscles are kind of rubbery and springy by nature, and more so if you don't tense up excessively. If you maintain forward pressure, you probably use some of this spring-back effect even if you don't identify it as such.
BTW... I thought a little more about what you said in this post, and I believe you have a really legit question. I have asked it myself, many times. Namely, "Is this just some trick that works in the 'chi-sau game' or can we really use it under pressure?" So far, my answer is that I, personally, cannot depend on springy energy 100%. Fortunately, WC basics will often carry me through when I can't "spring" like a master. But if I can get this springy effect to manifest just 5 or 10% of the time, I feel I'm better off for it.
Now, LFJ, if you want a better answer, look up some guys coming out of the LT lineage that actually have above average ability and have spent some serious time testing their stuff. Truth be told, I'm a hobbyist and my skills are "ho-hum" by comparison. --Steve
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Personally, I've learned quite a bit from reading forums like these. It has helped me let go of "kool aid drinking" and to realize that the WC versions and interpretations are a vast ocean. Take for example you and LFJ's view on WSLVT. I now think I understand it much better and, in lieu of crossing hands with someone from your lineage, can appreciate your comments; whether I agree or disagree. I'd still like to cross hands with someone from WSLVT someday but for now I'm limited to forums.
Really glad to have helped in some way. If you are ever in UK please let me know. Conveying information about the WSL method and learning about other methods is all I hope to do here, even though there are many who know a lot more about it than I do.
wckf92
Master of Arts
Count on it! Would be interesting to compare and contrast, q&a in person, etc. I think the nearest WSL guy to me is Kevin gledhill in NY. I wonder if any high quality WSL folks give seminars in the US? Or is it primarily UK and Europe?
Danny T
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Not really; but there is a solid reluctance by most to argue about each others wing chun; save for a few. Express your opinion and accept others may well have a different opinion. Ask questions for this is a discussion forum. I don't come here to argue but to discuss and get different perspectives. I will then take them, practice and test them. I will prove to myself if they have merit for me. What I will not do is get into an argument attempting to sway you to my perspective. I will give it and it is up to you to find out if it is of benefit to you. I really don't care about 'style' or lineage but about what I use to make me a better martial artist, a better instructor.
As to what someone else can do; that is great for them but does nothing for me. It is what I can do, it is what works for me. So whether you agree with something or not give it a try, get a partner and train it; practice it, then test it. If it doesn't work move on. Maybe you will gain a new perspective or you will now know for yourself if doesn't work for you.
Arguing about it helps no one.
That's how I view life in general. Everything you learn, build, or love will come to nothing. You will grow old, sick, useless and die. All is vanity.
Denial is your friend!
You really should consider being a motivational speaker. I think you have a knack for it
That is pretty funny! Anyone else here think I never share any real information???
Seems I remember someone being pretty interested in what I was sharing about the Tang Yik pole.That is pretty funny! Anyone else here think I never share any real information???
My experience is that you are interested in taking a strong stance about things you don't know much about, and getting angry, evasive and emotional over not much. Apart from that I don't know anything about you. You might be a great person in reality.
Sure I would be interested to talk about Tang Yik pole if you are. I think it looks really good.
Vajramusti
Master Black Belt
---------------------------------------------------------------------Well in that case, I better go stock up on more popcorn and beer.
Tsing tao, Singha or other- no Budweiser please
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