Hi Jeremy. Odd to see you in this thread, though not totally unexpected.
Why is it odd to see me in this thread?
[/quote]I use the word 'forced' as it is Earl's own wording. Quality control? Really? [/quote]
Yes...really.
Many schools have excellent students that eventually become excellent instructors without withholding their certificates.
Ok. So then are you saying that all instructors should follow other schools' examples and disregard their own process simply because the other schools' net good results?
Wow, that was a mouth full! First of all, we're discussing first Dans. Nothing has been mentioned about them becoming instructors, taking seminars or faking their way to the top and becoming grandmasters.
Actually the discussion was about instructors who never follow through and get the certificates that they promised to the students who paid them a good amount of money for. You brought up Mst. Weiss's process, which actually has no connection to the OP's original topic, since Mst. Weiss informs his students up front about his process.
As for only discussing first dans, do you think that first dans are not capable of such things? You said yourself there are many students who train in several arts then once they reach 1st dan they set off to other schools. They would be more prime to do such a thing then say 3rd or 4th dans who have actually put more time in to one art.
Do you know of any in particular that have gained experience/certification to the BB rank in different arts that have faked their names to become instant grandmasters? Who are they? What is your evidence that they are sub-par? Have you seen them teach a class? Are you familar with their material? In what way have they faked their way to the top? And top of what?
Yes, I do know of a few. No I will not name names here or in PM. My evidence is research that I did which involved not only the KKW, but also involved contacting other instructors both CONUS and other countries who he/she conned. Yes, I have met said person, seen their class and very familiar with what they were claiming to teach. They have faked their ranks, how they obtained ranks, distributed ranks which they had not authority to distribute.
Many have become quite proficient in several different types of arts and don't wish to focus solely upon just one art.
And many have become jack of all master of none as well.
That is their right if they chose and not up to others to determine what is best for them.
I do not believe that is in question. They all have a choice. In Mst. Weiss's case, if they do not wish to stay with him within the allotted time, then they lose the opportunity to receive their certificate. Also, I do not believe Mst. Weiss prohibits training outside of the school. He can answer that for certain.
I never said Earl wasn't a qualified instructor.
By making a statement that he should you should rely upon his abilities as an instructor rather than forcing a student into an arbitrary standard is just another way of calling into questions his qualifications.
Being recognized and held in high regard by Korean GM's really doesn't mean a lot to me, but if you say so then I'm fine with it.
Yes, we know how you don't care about what the Korean instructors who have paved the way for many of us, including yourself, think about individuals
Do you know what his retention rate is? Have you seen him teach or been to his school? Or is this an assumption on your part?
No, I do not know his retention rate, which is why I said he can speak directly on this manner. No to seeing him teach or been to his school, however, I have had the opportunity to watch his students at a tournament. They did quite well. I have met him person and have discussed many items about martial arts. I know of local ITF GM's who do speak highly of him. So, from all of that I can either think he is a blind squirrel that just happen to find some nuts or that he is good at what he does since he has been doing it for some time now. I chose the latter.