What’s your thoughts?
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isshinryuronin
Senior Master
I notice the ref had a stick too - in case he wants to join in on the fun?
Look like they are not that serious for been hit. If they hold swords (instead of sticks), the fight will look different.
Most I’ve done is spar with padded trainers. They still ouch a bit, but gives you a decent idea of what techniques you can pull off under semi realistic pressure. FMA is truly a multitasking art. The weapon is moving independently from the live hand. The live hand is used for clearing, punching, grabbing, trapping, etc, but with the weapon in mind. Practicing one handed combinations as I inquired about in an earlier post starts to make good sense, especially in the context of weapon self defense. Then add kicks…
Haha, I guess they should take their helmets off to make it more realistic.
“…the fight will look different” really?
When you spar, and your opponent goes down to the ground in submission, do you then kick them the in the teeth to make it more street realistic?
We’re not talking bjj, but okay, maybe they should. In your video, they simulate the stomp, but don’t actually stomp. Practically every art does some sort of stomping technique. In the FMA video you do see folks getting kick while on the ground.
Obviously bad calls are not taken lightly with this bunch!
One of my friend's son was killed in a street fight. Someone took his son down and kicked on his son's head. When his son arrived EM, it was too late.
I don't know how to train kicking on the head when your opponent is on the ground without hurting him. People can always train on a throwing dummy.
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Heart wrenching concerning your friends son. As a father of three and a grandfather of seven, these things really get to me.
That why combat training isn’t ever REAL combat training. In the video, while the opponent is down I did see body and leg kicks, but no head kicks
ap Oweyn
Brown Belt
Thanks for posting this, Holmejr. Nice to see some FMA activity here. (Be nice to see the actual FMA forum liven up a bit.)
I like the integration of kicking, punching, and stickwork. It's what I would want from a sparring format now myself. The minimal armour thing... I get it. I do. I'm just not that interested these days in testing my mettle with potentially life-altering consequences. I'm old enough to feel it already and don't need to nurse those sorts of injuries to prove something to myself. That was the conclusion I reached while attempting to study BJJ during a serious medical condition.
I'm not going to become a burden to family for the sake of my own sense of self. So, if I were to do this format, I'd take advantage of some reasonable safety precautions. What I'm looking for is a sense of "proof of concept." Not necessarily a sense that I'm a really tough guy. (I'm most assuredly not.)
Like you, the multitasking of FMA fascinates me. The lack of borders between the weapon work and the empty hand, etc. It's always nice to see a format that leaves space for that.
I'd be very happy to do something like this with some additional precautions in place. Padded stick for instance. I used to compete in WEKAF-style FMA tournaments. And, even with that level of padding, the bashing was real. I can't really imagine keeping up with this format for very long.
Those who do have my respect, but it's not for me and my long-term fitness goals. I often think how ironic it is the things we're willing to expose ourselves to in the name of self-defense.
I like the integration of kicking, punching, and stickwork. It's what I would want from a sparring format now myself. The minimal armour thing... I get it. I do. I'm just not that interested these days in testing my mettle with potentially life-altering consequences. I'm old enough to feel it already and don't need to nurse those sorts of injuries to prove something to myself. That was the conclusion I reached while attempting to study BJJ during a serious medical condition.
I'm not going to become a burden to family for the sake of my own sense of self. So, if I were to do this format, I'd take advantage of some reasonable safety precautions. What I'm looking for is a sense of "proof of concept." Not necessarily a sense that I'm a really tough guy. (I'm most assuredly not.)
Like you, the multitasking of FMA fascinates me. The lack of borders between the weapon work and the empty hand, etc. It's always nice to see a format that leaves space for that.
I'd be very happy to do something like this with some additional precautions in place. Padded stick for instance. I used to compete in WEKAF-style FMA tournaments. And, even with that level of padding, the bashing was real. I can't really imagine keeping up with this format for very long.
Those who do have my respect, but it's not for me and my long-term fitness goals. I often think how ironic it is the things we're willing to expose ourselves to in the name of self-defense.
May I ask in what flavor of FMA did you train?
I never competed in tournaments, just inner school stuff with padded police trainers. We train mostly situationally, along with speed building exercises and use tapi tapi as a sparring tool. Longer range techniques come only after students are proficient in medium and close range.
If you’re (or anybody!) ever close by come visit us. Sundays 1:30 - 5:00.
Eskrido De Alcuizar
Buena Park, CA
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ap Oweyn
Brown Belt
Yeah of course. Looks like my background is similar to yours. Doce Pares. Cacoy lineage. I've practiced with other groups as well, but that's my formal ranking. Doce Pares. I've trained in "Inosanto Blend" and spent years training alongside a Modern Arnis group as well, though I have no ranking in Modern Arnis personally.
I trained in Doce Pares in Maryland, as I'm on the East Coast. I competed in California once, though. San Francisco to be specific. Nominally beat a guy from Largo Mano (though I took as good as I gave, to be sure). Then got absolutely pummeled by a fighter named Reginald Burford, who was big on the scene back then.
Thanks for the invite, my friend, even if I'm unlikely to be able to take you up on it.
