INDYFIGHTER
Purple Belt
I hope I'm the winning kind!
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I hope that your declaration of Wing Chun's street dominance is the result of a scientific type approach wherein you have personally trained and tested your skills in every other martial art available. That way, I wouldn't need to ask the question, "How can you speak intelligently to the merits of all other arts without having learned all other arts?".gp322 said:Wing Chun is the best for street fighter, no matter where you go, Wing Chun can stick to your opponents and knock them out ...
Hey, that's what it said in the brochure.Flatlander said:I hope that your declaration of Wing Chun's street dominance is the result of a scientific type approach wherein you have personally trained and tested your skills in every other martial art available. That way, I wouldn't need to ask the question, "How can you speak intelligently to the merits of all other arts without having learned all other arts?".
I'm that kind of fighter too, whatever works...sgtmac_46 said:In the fights i've been in, they usually started out with either a punch of a forearm strike to the jaw area. If that didn't knock out my opponent, a few more punches might have been thrown, or a couple of low line kicks. Most fights that didn't end there, usually ended up in upright grappling which I ended with a standing neck restraint (strangle/choke). I have never been on the ground as a civilian in my adult life. I do take a lot of guys to the ground at work (i'm a police officer) because that's the most stable platform to handcuff a resisting subject. In a street fight, however, a combination of punches/elbows/knees/forearms along with upright grappling (especially chokes) is how I fight. I tried to headbutt a guy once, but he had me by the hair of the head, and I couldn't get my head to him. So I grabbed him by the throat instead. That changed the color of the fight, when fingers met behind his wind pipe and he realized he couldn't breath, he decided fighting me was less important than getting somewhere else, and he decided that discreation was the better part of valor. I like standing forearms for the openning move in a streetfight, there's a good chance you can knock the other guy out with a good solid forearm to the V of the jaw. I've knocked a few guys out, and the ones I didn't knock out, I knocked off of their feet and put them on the defensive. I like to preceed it by the groin slap. The groin slap causes the other guy to immediately move his whole upper body forward and stick his chin straight out. Don't believe me? Try it on a buddy. I guarantee every time his hands will go to his groin and his upper body will move toward you, with his chin stuck straight out. When your opponent does that, hit him across the V of the jaw with a slightly downward forearm strike. Trust me. The difference between the UFC and the street isn't necessarily the techniques, it's the element of the surprise. In the UFC both people know there's a fight, and they know when it'll start. Not a whole lot of surprises in the UFC where everybody has watched everyone else's fight tapes. Those guys are tought, but they aren't surprised too much by the overall ability of their opponents. Not so in the street where Speed, Surprise and Violence of Action usually carry the day in the street. Of course, the best street fight is the one you avoid. Saves teeth and lawsuits, as i've learned in my older age. Still, it never hurts to be prepared.
Thats the best defense ever but is it doesnt work I'll do the "last resort have to defend myself style"OC Kid said:I teach my students to take their right hand, grasp their enemies right hand palm to palm and move up and down with a perpendicular movement to the ground and walk away friends
I totally agree. Martial artists have training, pride, conduct and honor. Street fighters have guns, friends and experince.Nightwish said:Sorry NONE of you are street fighters. Street fighters, to put it bluntly are complete *******s. Street fighters are a lot of the time members of gangs, they LIVE on the ****ing streets and hunt each other day and night. There is no glory in being a street fighter. Half the time youd be looking out for that other guy that doesnt like your face hiding in a dark alley and when you least expect it, he pops out and blows your head off. Street fighters are found either dead in such an alley or dead in a hospital they rarely last long.
If you run into one, hes not gonna wait for you to use your 208 killer combo techniques that would never work anyway. Hes gonna ****ing drop a bomb on you when HE chooses under HIS terms hes gonna cheat you see fighting on the streets is a game played unfairly ALL the time. The bad guy is gonna try and cheat you, and if you dont catch on, or cheat even more than he does, your goin six feet under. If you dont strike first, you are also most likely ****ing dead because whoever strikes first usually wins fights. Thats how Ive won mine. Street fighting for your average citizens (which is what we are) is about survival (which could mean surviving by killing him, beating the **** out of him, or even losing, but managing to escape somehow) especially when you run into a seasoned street vet. He has spent countless hours/years, however the **** how long training tactics he has pressure tested almost EVERYDAY of his Street life. That could be 1 year, 2 years, 7 years, etc. He knows how fights go down, he knows how to cheat, and he knows how to kill, and doesnt have a problem with it. In a street fight, you may not only face this guy, but you may face his 3 friends at the same time and lets not forget you will also be facing the court system if you kill them all to survive, which you may have to do. And unfortunately the courts are not as vigilante as me, or perhaps you.
So please dont think of yourself as a street fighter, because you are not, and you will lose respect from anyone with the slightest sense of morale. Hopefully you are an average citizen who has respect for others and yourself.
By all means continue to train hard, but for your sake, remember to train realistically ALL the time.
Forever Vigilant,
Jeff
I am primarily a standup fighter. I would be afraid of getting double teamed if I took it to the ground on the street.Kane said:People fight in the street in many ways. But it is basicly broken down into 3 categories. Those are Striking, Slamming, and Submission.
Striking: These include any type of hitting. Punches, kickes, knee, elbows, headbutts, palms, ect. all count as a strike.
Slamming: Bash there body on yourself, ground, ceiling, or wall. This basicly is using throwing an oponent on your fist as hard as you can, or on some other object i.e. picking up a man in their abdomen or legs and slamming on a surface (some might call it a spinbuster). Pushing can also fall in this category. Basicly throws and takedowns.
Submission: Focus on pressure points, joints, and submission moves. Moves like armbars, chokes, joint locks, ect.
In a situation on the street where your only option is to fight, which type of style would you use the most?
I would probably use more Slamming moves while standing, and more Submission moves on the ground. I might only strike of if I have them in the mount, or he is a good ground fighter in which I kick him on the ground.