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I want Scott Ryan.We'd have to get the right casting to play Drop Bear, though.
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I want Scott Ryan.We'd have to get the right casting to play Drop Bear, though.
Self-Defense: the defense of one's person or interests, especially through the use of physical force, which is permitted in certain cases as an answer to a charge of violent crime.Again, does the term self-defense include to protect your love one?
Which is why I didn't suggest the term "self defenser" was useful.Kind of. If I say someone is a fighter, we have an idea of what that means, even if I'm speaking figuratively and not literally. It's also easily defined.
But you can't say someone is a self defenser. That makes no sense. It's makes no sense as a verb, at all. It can (and does) mean pretty much whatever someone wants for it to mean. At best, it's too vague to be useful. At worst, it's something sales people use to shill a product and add mystique to their brand.
I can get on board with that, if we go beyond my typical usage of "self defense" (which is narrower than most folks).So, just to clarify what I had in mind with this thread, if we can all agree that "self defense" is in some way related to personal safety, and let it go at that, then we all have some experience. For example, a social worker/case manager who works with SSI recipients for a public hospital is going to have a lot of self defense experience, whether he or she knows martial arts or not. I'd argue that they could have more practical experience than some people who purport to be self defense experts.
As with a lot of things, not being trained to defend yourself, you can still be successful. The point of training to defend yourself should be to improve the chances of success by some margin.Hence self defence, combat sport, boxing skills, Speciality is a good thing to discuss.
The biggest issue with self defence is you don't have to be trained to do it. If we add avoiding conflict. Then you don't even have to know if you are doing it or not.
Am I doing self defence now?
I mean nobody is attacking me.
TMII want Scott Ryan.
it’s nonsense. That’s the point.Which is why I didn't suggest the term "self defenser" was useful.
I truly don’t know whether you mean you are using the term in a narrower sense than me or vice versa. And who are these “most folks”?I can get on board with that, if we go beyond my typical usage of "self defense" (which is narrower than most folks).
Most folks on here (and others I've talked to) include non-physical stuff in their definition of self-defense. To me, the term includes only physical defense. So you're using the term in a broader sense than I usually do, but I don't think that my usage is the more common, except perhaps in legal circles.I truly don’t know whether you mean you are using the term in a narrower sense than me or vice versa. And who are these “most folks”?
So you have a more specific definition than most people? Okay. That's fine. For this thread, I'm using what I believed to be the general understanding of the term, which would include things like situational awareness, deescalation, etc. I tried to make that pretty clear in the OP with the examples I provided.Most folks on here (and others I've talked to) include non-physical stuff in their definition of self-defense. To me, the term includes only physical defense. So you're using the term in a broader sense than I usually do, but I don't think that my usage is the more common, except perhaps in legal circles.
I think in general, it's best to use the definitions of the OP when there's debate about definition, to avoid any confusion. Unless their definition is completely whacko.Most folks on here (and others I've talked to) include non-physical stuff in their definition of self-defense. To me, the term includes only physical defense. So you're using the term in a broader sense than I usually do, but I don't think that my usage is the more common, except perhaps in legal circles.
Yep. That's what I was saying. Easy enough when we all understand the usage.So you have a more specific definition than most people? Okay. That's fine. For this thread, I'm using what I believed to be the general understanding of the term, which would include things like situational awareness, deescalation, etc. I tried to make that pretty clear in the OP with the examples I provided.
This is much more interested discussion topic.
- What's people's "door guarding skill"?
- How did people develop it?
- What's their successful ratio?
I’m an expert tickler. I really did avoid a bar fight that way once. I consider it a feather in my cap.Well, I considered bring back a thread from 2006 on Self Defense. A lot of good, general definitions in that thread. But figured it would be better to just start a new one.
We talk a lot about self defense in broad terms. A lot of posts along the lines of dealing with a threat to your physical or mental safety. But I think that leads to a lot of misunderstanding. So, if you think about a bouncer as being a specialist in a particular area of self defense. Or a cop, or an MMA fighter, or anyone else... what's your specialty? What do you think you've done enough in your life that you would consider yourself an expert in that area?
Have you been in a lot of bar fights? Or better yet, almost been in a lot of bar fights? Have you lived in an area where violent crime is more common? Did you take public transit for long enough to get a Spidey sense when something weird was happening?
If you laugh out loud, I win. Hard to be a tough guy when you are squirming and giggling.I’m an expert tickler. I really did avoid a bar fight that way once. I consider it a feather in my cap.
The best martial art(except for tickling). I’m not very fast at it, but it works like nothing else for staying pretty.Running away.