We've Lost one...

[Jill666]

Originally posted by Johnathan Napalm
I suppose, the next thing I hear would be, "YEAH, you go and do that!"

Be my guest.

I personally would have preferred to see RSK's suspension lifted. That said, do I want to be a mod and put my time where my mouth is? Hell no. So there it is.

As for what happens on May 1, I couldn't care less. I suspect by May 1 I'll have forgotten all about this (I do have a life). I do hope RSK returns- I also have been thrilled to read about the rich history Of Okinawa and the arts that engendered my own.

My opinion, not that you asked.

 

[Jill666]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
Shove it up your wazoo.

I must note that I was truly sorry Yiliquan beat me to it! Well, I'm off to train my a$$ off.

 

[Matt Stone]

I am posting it again at his request.

Enough is Enough...

And I'm not referring to the TV show...

This is a done deal. The Mod Gods have spoken from on high. Things are as they are. Mike got suspended until May, RSK (I like that - saves typing time!) is out until March 21. 'Nuff said.

Knowing RSK, I suspect he is getting a few giggles out of the mess this has turned into, but I know that this would not be what he had intended. While he seems hotheaded from the way he posts, I guarantee he is far from such a characterization. He is a Midwesterner just like I am, and when I was in Japan with him we used to joke about Midwestern bluntness... We shoot from the hip, call 'em like we see 'em, and sometimes that pisses folks off... I work with attorneys, so I have learned to "talk nice," but when it comes right down to it, I am much more at home with the right at ya method.

This all having been said, I think we need to return to thinking like the MAists we all profess to be.

If Mike learns a lesson from this, we will all be able to see it in the way he posts in the future, if he posts at all. If he doesn't learn a lesson, that will be obvious as well and I am sure that the Mod Gods will raise their mighty fists in anger and smite him from the Heavens.

If RSK returns, then things will be as they will be. I doubt very highly that he will play patty-cake with bogus posters, and I for one would never want him to. I like best what Arnisador said:

Identifying frauds is something E-Budo is known for; we want to be known for friendly discussion. It's a design compromise.

E-budo has a very active "Bad Budo" forum that has identified a large number of vastly overrated and highly publicized frauds (e.g. Oom Yung Doe/Chung Moo Doe; Temple Kung Fu; Ashida Kim, et. al.; etc.). Martial Talk is a very different environment within which to interact, and maybe that is why I like it better than E-budo (although I still think very highly of E-budo, the "heavy weight" posters that are there, as well as the very good friends in Tokyo that I made while a member of E-budo). The only reason I would feel that the MT Bad Budo forum needs to become more active is that there are 1474 members here, and they may or may not be aware of what dangers lurk in the shadows of the MA world.

Bottom line - we need to put this baby to bed and move on. What is done is done. Give your opponent time, and he will make a mistake. Give him enough rope, and he will tie the knot on the noose himself. Let's wait and see what May brings besides flowers...

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

 

[GouRonin]

Originally posted by Yiliquan1
Yeah... makes you wonder if Gou really wrote it...

What are you talking about? I have to to dictate my posts to my wife and then she translates all of them.

 

[arnisador]

Kaith Rustaz did indeed delete Yiliquan1's post, but I would like to make clear that it was an accident. The mod. capabilities are 'always on' on these accounts, which has occasionally led to problems of this sort. Kaith was deleting his own post after reconsidering what he wanted to communicate but he accidentally deleted an adjacent post as well. Those of you who administer computer systems now that you shouldn't always work as 'root' and should only turn it on when needed. Unfortunately, this software doesn't let us switch. We could use one account to surf and then log out and log back in as someone else, the admin./mod., do the work, then log out and log back in as a non-mod., but that's slow and awkward.

We apologize for this error!

-Arnisador
-MT Admin-

 

[GouRonin]

Originally posted by Johnathan Napalm
Rather I am offering a perspective from a different angle, which some people may not be willing to express.

Yes. Your teen-style angst has us all riveted to this board. This is even better than 90210. Go Johnny Napalm! You are my hero. I read that article in Tiger Beat about you but I have to ask... what is the relationship between you and Tori Spelling? Inquiring minds want to know.
:iws:

 

[Matt Stone]

Originally posted by arnisador
Kaith Rustaz did indeed delete Yiliquan1's post, but I would like to make clear that it was an accident. The mod. capabilities are 'always on' on these accounts, which has occasionally led to problems of this sort. Kaith was deleting his own post after reconsidering what he wanted to communicate but he accidentally deleted an adjacent post as well. Those of you who administer computer systems now that you shouldn't always work as 'root' and should only turn it on when needed. Unfortunately, this software doesn't let us switch. We could use one account to surf and then log out and log back in as someone else, the admin./mod., do the work, then log out and log back in as a non-mod., but that's slow and awkward.

We apologize for this error!

-Arnisador
-MT Admin-

Sorry if I implied anything or failed to make myself clear about how my post was killed... Bob emailed me and asked me to re-post, and was kind enough to provide the text for me to do just that...

Gambarimasu.
:asian:

 

[JDenz]

cool

 

[sweeper]

JN it sounds to me like you are saying the roof is more important than the foundation because without a roof who would want to live in the house..

In my opinion they are both important and both needed.

The reason I came onto this forum (the first and onlty MA forum I am a member of) is because of two things. 1: people who know what they are talking about and 2:the accessability of posts without having to sift through flames and other detractions from the information content of a site. There are alot of good threds on rec.martialart but I never look there because of how many freakin flames there are.. I mean something interesting starts up and within 15 posts it turns into a "my style is better than yours" or some moron comes in and says "everything everyone said is wrong". I don't want to sift through all that stuff, it's not worth it in my opinion. I think if this board were to a:loose the "heavy weight" posters or b: become alot less civil, I would leave.. doesn't matter wich one, and as a result I personaly think apreciation should be shown for both mods and those with a good deal of knowledge willing to share it.

 

[Ty K. Doe]

I don't usually watch soaps, but this one's good.

 

[Cruentus]

I just wanted to say that the Mod's did the right thing here. They did what they had to do.

RyuShiKan has a lot of good things to say. But lets face the facts, people: he is also posts like a hot head when he hammers others. There is a way to tactfully hammer someone w/o getting banned. I myself have done my share of hammering, which has only yeilded me a few warnings, and only when I got out of hand. There are right ways and wrong ways to go about anything. We all could learn from this, as I am sure Ryu will try to.

Shuri-te, or whatever, is a coward. I am glad to see him suspended for a long time.

Will RyuShiKan return? He will. I can say this with confidence because unlike Shuri-te, he is not a coward. I highly doubt that he would let something like this get under his skin so badly that he would be too distraught to return. I'm sure he'll take his "punishment" like a man, and he'll be back. Even if it is only to tell everyone to screw off and that he's not going to post here ever again. I personally hope that he returns, and sticks around for a long time.

Will Shuri-te return? Probably under a different name if he does because as far as I am concerned (and unless he changes his ways) he is a coward.

My Opinions.


PAUL

 

[Johnathan Napalm]

Originally posted by GouRonin
Yes. Your teen-style angst has us all riveted to this board. This is even better than 90210. Go Johnny Napalm! You are my hero. I read that article in Tiger Beat about you but I have to ask... what is the relationship between you and Tori Spelling? Inquiring minds want to know.
:iws:

as if you should talk....... Take a good look into the mirror, my friend.

 

[Master of Blades]

Originally posted by Johnathan Napalm
as if you should talk....... Take a good look into the mirror, my friend.

Oh come on.....people are being stupid enough as it is.....Dont do cusses that only Rich would come up with!


Seriously though, is there any point in leaving cuz RSK is gone for a while. If he doesnt come back that is his own choice and its not exactly like the Admins banished him for life. Everyone is not helping by harrassing the Admins because of it all. And Napalm......Yes this is just a forum, and a very well run one at that. Stop complaining......I'm bored of it. :shrug:

 

[JDenz]

defintly give the mods a break.

 

[Rich Parsons]

Originally posted by Master of Blades
Oh come on.....people are being stupid enough as it is.....Dont do cusses that only Rich would come up with!


Seriously though, is there any point in leaving cuz RSK is gone for a while. If he doesnt come back that is his own choice and its not exactly like the Admins banished him for life. Everyone is not helping by harrassing the Admins because of it all. And Napalm......Yes this is just a forum, and a very well run one at that. Stop complaining......I'm bored of it. :shrug:

WOW MOB, that was your best insult to date. You compared me to Johnny Napalm.

I think you have me on the ropes, I got to go back and rethink this game plan. MOB has pulled out everything.


Seriously, as JDenz said, give the Mods a break, and let us just wait and see what happens when the suspention is lifted.

 

[Johnathan Napalm]

I was just giving Guo an elbow to the rib.



Back to the issue. If the forum is to be a "friendly discussion", that is fine. No one is arguing for a free-for-all, NHB flame forum. But it would be "watering down" the quality of the forum, if "getting to the truth" is sacrificed in the name of maintaining "friendly discussion". I would rather see the truth be upheld than the "friendly discussion" be paramount. (Who would bother to be with a bunch of touchy feely, softie purfume princes whose feeling and ego are too easily bruised?)Of course, this is the admin's forum, and the admin can set whatever policy as they see fit. OTOH, the posters are free to leave. What I was saying was, there was at least one forum where the admin took the posters for granted and kept telling them to leave if they didn't like it there. HECK, the posters did EXACTLY just that, all 500-600 of the heavy weights.

I have NOT said this forum is badly run. To the contrary, this is one of the better fun forums. The quality of the mods is above average.

One policy I tend to disagree with is the punishment of both parties in an argument when there is a clear case of right and wrong. That reflects 1, the inability or unwillingness of the mods or admin to bother to figure out what is right vs wrong, 2, insulting to the intelligence of the posters who post here.

JMO.

 

[Johnathan Napalm]

Originally posted by sweeper
JN it sounds to me like you are saying the roof is more important than the foundation because without a roof who would want to live in the house..

In my opinion they are both important and both needed.

The reason I came onto this forum (the first and onlty MA forum I am a member of) is because of two things. 1: people who know what they are talking about and 2:the accessability of posts without having to sift through flames and other detractions from the information content of a site. There are alot of good threds on rec.martialart but I never look there because of how many freakin flames there are.. I mean something interesting starts up and within 15 posts it turns into a "my style is better than yours" or some moron comes in and says "everything everyone said is wrong". I don't want to sift through all that stuff, it's not worth it in my opinion. I think if this board were to a:loose the "heavy weight" posters or b: become alot less civil, I would leave.. doesn't matter wich one, and as a result I personaly think apreciation should be shown for both mods and those with a good deal of knowledge willing to share it.

Where did I say this should be a free for all, flame forum?

 

[Master of Blades]

Lol....I said something clever

 

[arnisador]

Originally posted by Johnathan Napalm
One policy I tend to disagree with is the punishment of both parties in an argument

This is not our policy. I didn't like this approach in junior high school and I don't like it now. We simply don't do that. I understand that it may appear that way to you in this instance, but I assure you that this is not what we do.

-Arnisador
-MT Admin-

 

[GouRonin]

Originally posted by Johnathan Napalm
as if you should talk....... Take a good look into the mirror, my friend.
I was just giving Guo an elbow to the rib.

As I read your post I knew you were. Mostly because we're just not friends.
:shrug: