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What he said.SenseiBear said:I would find it suspicious, but not surprising... I recall about 6 months or so ago, the Pakistani's had a bunch of "Senior Al-Qaida" members, perhaps even Bin Laden that they cornered and captured. Our government quickly dismissed the idea that they had caught Osama...
If we "catch" him just before the election, I will be convinced that we have had him locked up for months, waiting for the politically right time to reveal him.
As long as you realize that this vote is a vote for the status quo.MACaver said:By the way... my personal political leanings??....This year I'm going to vote the same way I've always voted... NONE - OF - THE - ABOVE!
Yeah, true. So what does that say about the winning candidate? They're better at slandering, defamation of character, belittling someone, and just about anything else negative? It's personal character that reflects on how one faces their opposition. As someone to beat but to do it with the respect that a fellow human being deserves... and to treat those they're trying to win over with the same respect to their intelligence and understanding of their frustrations at just how nearly every president since FDR has had a major scandal that they had to double talk their way out of... I mean jeez. Is this what politics is about? The corruption influence of power? Ya'll can have it.michaeledward said:Regardless of what you want a candidate to do, it does come down to winning an election. It has been shown that damaging the opponents strengths is the way to win an election. That is how Bush the elder defeated Dukakis. That is how Clinton beat Bush and Dole. That is how Reagan beat Carter.
NO! We the citizens of this great nation should not be to blame for the actions of another. We should however carry the blame for putting the sucker in office in the first place. For being hood-winked by (EITHER) candidates in believing they want what is BEST for US not for them. But like sheep we just go along. The government seems to like that because it gives them the leeway to do what is in THEIR best interests. The government is terrified of us getting in touch with our feelings. If we were in touch with our feelings then we'd throw these mo-fo's out. We wouldn't take it for a minnit! But it's easier to go on with our lives, gripe and ***** about what's going on up at the hill and hope for a better guy to run for office.michaeledward said:Don't blame the candidates, blame your fellow citizens. If they did not react the way they do, the candidates would not act the way they do.
Didn't watch/read it ... didn't care to. All due respect to those who actually suffered the hell of serving on a swift-boat in Vietnam during the conflict... what does talking about one's prior service in an unpopular war that have to do with right now and today and tomorrow. All that is, is just big dick waving by the candidates. If the presidential hopefuls want to impress me then show me how you're going to keep me in a good paying job and protect the country in the time during your term in office.michaeledward said:What was your reaction to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
Probably because I don't want to be an ***. Taking sides in a mud-fight...michaeledward said:Why not demonstrate your opposition to the 'mudslinging' by voting against the party the drew first blood .... Vote Democratic.
I think that's what I've been doing. Not very patriotic I agree and probably not that helpful. But then the ones upon the hill aren't being that helpful in reducing the deficit, protecting us from invaders, keeping the military action to a minimum while maintaining it's strength, improving the quality of life for ALL of us (especially the poor and lower-middle class), uniting congress and the senate and all the others, so that they'll work together regardless of party and help us reach a level of national pride that we are the best country in the world.michaeledward said:Or just sit on the side ... don't participate in change ... just keep on keepin' on. Better the Devil we know, than the devil we don't.
michaeledward said:What was your reaction to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
Strange ....You decry all the mudslinging, but proclaim that you completely ignored the mudslinging that has been going on? How then do you know that your proclaimed 'mudslinging' occurred at all?MACaver said:Didn't watch/read it ... didn't care to. .....
then I'd have to go with the guy who reacts not with a negative comment/action back but goes on ignoring his opponent's skoolyard methods.