Chris Parker
Grandmaster
Oh dear lord....
A slightly abbreviated response (for the benefit of those reading):
You were 4. It was still babysitting. And remained so for a long time. In fact, from all evidence, I don't know if it's stopped being so yet.
You are not "phenomenal". Take it from us. You are, in fact, highly sub-standard for someone who has trained since he was 2.
"Amazing martial artist? Sure, why not" (in describing yourself)... and you don't think you're being prideful? I'd say you're being unjustifiably arrogant, despite all evidence to the contrary.
No, especially not the way you go about it. As far as not stating anywhere that you're better than anyone? Seriously?
"It is rare for a person to land a strike on me". But you're not stating that you're better than anyone, right? Should we go through the mess of previous threads of yours?
Honestly, I don't think your construct is placed in reality, mainly as it is contradicted by your own words a number of times.
A slightly abbreviated response (for the benefit of those reading):
Geezer; the contradiction is only one because I began martial arts in the early 90s with the advent of those 'turtle' or 'lil'ninja' programs. Did I learn how to throw a front and back punch, and how to do a front kick, and front stance by the time I was 2? Yes. But I would say that I actually began training when I was 4, and in the childrens class for underbelts. I am only trying to be truthful with my own background. I say 20 years because it's true. But I'd say I actually started when I was 4, because that's when it stopped being babysitting, and actual focus on the arts.
You were 4. It was still babysitting. And remained so for a long time. In fact, from all evidence, I don't know if it's stopped being so yet.
I consider myself, and Ill use the word again, a phenomenal martial artist because others who are masters have said this to me. Am I wrong to repeat what others have felt I deserve to be labeled? But prideful? That is something else. One can be honest about one's ability, how one is good, and where one needs work. Most of the people I know, have no idea I practice. It's a topic I really only bring up (martial arts) at the dojo, with training partners, and here. Why? Martial arts is about deception, and a part of that is not to attract overt amounts of attention to oneself.
You are not "phenomenal". Take it from us. You are, in fact, highly sub-standard for someone who has trained since he was 2.
Pride is wearing your art on your sleeve like a badge. I don't feel right calling myself prideful, when being humble is how so many teachers have let me become their student, and honored me in return. Amazing martial artist? Sure, why not. But there are a lot better, and a lot more whom I could learn from. And I am being honest when I say that I am of that calibur of an artist. But I could also grow more.
"Amazing martial artist? Sure, why not" (in describing yourself)... and you don't think you're being prideful? I'd say you're being unjustifiably arrogant, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Cyriacus; Is it not humble that the person who would consider himself good, would create a post on a public sphere exploring how he was bested. Being a phenomenal, a good martial artist is just that. And when someone is one, they know, and should be able to speak freely about it. Nowhere do you see me stating I'm better than anyone else.
No, especially not the way you go about it. As far as not stating anywhere that you're better than anyone? Seriously?
"It is rare for a person to land a strike on me". But you're not stating that you're better than anyone, right? Should we go through the mess of previous threads of yours?
I think many though think that when I mean fighter, I am referring to a martial artist who focuses on the combat side. I'm not; I'm referring to people who neglect almost all aspects of the art, and focus only on fighting.
Honestly, I don't think your construct is placed in reality, mainly as it is contradicted by your own words a number of times.
TonyDismukes; Part of my training took place in my childhood. The meat of it, the actual training began at 10 and has never stopped. I practice 3 times a day for an hour each, on top of a morning and night static stretching. I never stopped training, save once, for a short period of time.[/QUOTE
Practice more. Talk less.
The video being referred to is often used as an example by others to prove a point completely irregardless to why the video was made, and posted. I think I've heard so many criticisms on it some even contradict. I posted that video after one of my first threads where it became common view that I do not use control in contact fighting. The video is proof of how erred that is. It was not to demonstrate awesome ability, or perfect technique, it was only some of the style I employ, and how I do have considerable control.
No, Alex, you came on here asking if you were hitting people too hard, or if you were "just too good" for them, we listened to your story, found holes in it, particularly with your ways of discussing yourself, and that was that. You later posted the video with no reference to the previous conversation, with no mention of any of the reasons you give here, but instead saying that it was an example of you sparring using "mixed martial arts", even though it wasn't MMA, and most of the arts you claim were in there were completely lacking (as in non-existant except for your completely misguided opinion that you were showing "aspects" of them... you weren't), stating that you hoped people could "learn from it". You later tried to bring up the control aspect, and the previous thread, only to have people tell you (quite rightly) that control isn't an issue when there is such a lack of power and delivery is from such a long way away.
Seriously, kid, these threads are all here for us to read, try not to confuse yourself, we can all go back and re-read them...
Perfect technique I suppose is a misnomer, for the definition of perfection in its own right can disavow the possibility of it happening. Good technique is about executing the technique as it is meant to be, correctly, for the sake of the technique itself, and the art. How often have you sparred someone proud of say their roundhouse, so they flit it out, even when out of range? It's about right movement for the sake of harmony. And when you actually have a combat with true rapport between practitioners... there's a lot less violence than there is harmony.
Oh dear lord.... what?
And by phenomenal martial artist I mean this; someone who practices their art with integrity. The kind of person who if they do a repetition of 20 and make 1 mistake, start all over, ad infinitude until they get it right, or can no longer move. Someone who others come to for advice for how they can improve, and in the interaction, both grow. Phenomenal is too small a word to describe what I mean, but we all know those artists who are like this. They practice not to be cool, not to win, but for the sake of the art itself, and the love of it. You can't define someone like that with just one word, and when you try, it merely makes it seem like they're bragging, or others are talking them up.
Then you need to learn what words mean, and use them properly. That's not what "phenomenal" means. Nor is there such a phrase as "ad infinitude", you're mis-using "err" again (above), and many more mistakes besides. If you want to be understood, don't use definitions that don't match understood ones.
Wc_Lun; martial arts is my spirituality, alongside my mahayana beliefs. And they compliment each other well, I might add. I always love that old cliche, but I have a simple response to it; ditch the cup, get a bowl.
Knowledge is truth. Truth doesn't conflict with other truth. Likewise, I've noticed that the different styles I can utilize tend not to conflict unless I'm forcing them too.
And this shows a complete lack of understanding of the buddhist teaching (of the empty and full cup), martial principles, and, well, pretty much everything else.
But experienced... I'll buy that I could use more. But then again I've been mugged twice, stopped two assaults, a convenience store robbery, and just recently someone trying to attack me drunkenly. You tell me how much more experience I need for me to know if my art works or not. I seem to be perfectly fine .
Considering the stories you gave about those situations, I'd suggest some real experience. You know, genuine ones that aren't the product of an overactive teenagers imagination. Or do we need to revisit those claims again as well?
Dirty-dog; As I said before, you focus on the past. The knife demonstration was when I was in high school, and look closely- those are steak knives. Not combat. Not competition, kitchen cutlery. That entire form was made up, and done to demonstrate a point- that, that particular tournament had a serious problem judging fairly. The fact you actually look at that video and consider it an exhibition of who I am as an artist... why would I keep bantering with you when you can't even glean the actual message behind the video.
Please... "I was garbage on purpose to show them a lesson"? Seriously? The why are you so bad in the sparring clip? Is that to show us that we can be fooled by a genuine martial savant?
It seems the greatest point of contention in this post is my use of that word 'phenomenal'. I have no problem saying I'm not then, if it will appease the masses on this board. But when ability is something subjective, especially in this art, than no one can apply that title to themself. And that's wrong. A martial artist should have integrity, and that includes honesty. And if they are good at what they do, it would be wrong to say otherwise. No one on this board has met me, let alone taken the time to actually practice either with, or against me in a match. It's like blowing hot air until you do, especially when you point to examples of me from 6 years ago, when I'm 22 now. Granted not a long time to pass, but it offers an infinite amount of time to improve with dedication.
Garbage. We've seen you in action, we've read your posts, and you are severely lacking in all regards. So yes, we can discuss your ability... you have very little. And, out of interest, how long ago was the sparring clip done? Six years ago as well?
I don't walk around calling myself the best artist alive. I am content in just being a martial artist. And that's the thing K-man; for someone who touts experience as the pre-requisite for you to respect them, you are being terribly hypocritical by not in turn giving me that respect in turn. Because this is martial arts, and you know what, my experience in the arts has probably been much longer, and even if much shorter, is just as valuable as the time you've spent.
Son, you're decades behind K-Man, so you know... mind you, you've been told that before as well....
Chris Parker; One of my other hobbies is writing. The non-bolded is just background for anyone who may want to read it. I enjoy reading as much as possible, so if I were say reading my post, I'd read the unbolded too, just so I can get more background info. It may not be necessary, but it could help clarify, which we all well know is a difficulty with me.
If writing is a hobby of yours, learn to write. You constantly mis-use words, use atrocious grammar, employ convoluted and confusing sentences and arguments, are unable to maintain a single train of thought for more than a few words, and more. Then again, I thought your excuse for the incessant issues with your writing was that you were at university, and it was for academic reasons? Hmm...
I mean, here's another example... in this answer, you've said who you're addressing the responses to, but you're changing exactly what you're answering without any reference to the new subject matter, here you start saying "I wish I could edit that"... uh, edit what? Dude, learn to write.
I wish I could edit that actually; I meant the shodan in Kendo to be applicable toward my background, not his. Such is typing when tired. You, and others make an absolutely valid point that depending on the context of match, how strikes land matter in sport/arts like Kendo. In boxing, the constant improvement of technique is what enables growth. And there is a philosophical side to it- does one focus on sparring, or working with the teacher in private to perfect that technique. I'm of the mind if you perfect the technique, with time and practicing it pragmatically with another one becomes a better fighter.
How on earth is his shodan in Kendo relevant to your background? You weren't sparring with weaponry, so what does it have anything to do with? And that is nothing to do with the "philosophical side" of things like Kendo, nor indeed boxing. Again, seriously, what?
I would say Chris, on a board like this, where I do not compete I have no place to say whether I'm a good, or a bad fighter. And besides the point, the effectiveness of our fighting is circumstantial at all times, even when the odds are all in our favor. It just seemed prudent that if I'm trying to make a contrast between the arts, and fighting, than if I'm going to put myself in the white as a good martial artist it seems fair that I also admit that I feel I could be a better fighter. I don't compete any longer either.
I have no idea what on earth you're talking about here.
I noticed my typo as well Chris, but too late for me to edit it. What I mean is; penetrating, transference, pushing types of strikes. My b on the typo.
Huh? Pushing isn't striking... so how is it different types of striking?
I'll end my reply on this; I consider myself a well read, and educated individual. But I could always learn more. It's the same thing for martial arts, and I well understand that I have decades to continue. If me considering myself an above average offends, that really isn't on me. But since the last person who told me that is a 5th dan of over 50 years, I don't mind repeating it. But it takes others of equal pride to take offense at someone they think is pride. I am prideful; of the arts, and that I've been allowed to take part in them. But going around thinking I'm better than everyone else? Which seems to be the kind of pride incensing people here...
You may consider yourself educated and well read, but trust me, you really don't come across that way... especially when almost everything you put down is wrong, lacking, misinterpreted, misunderstanding, or just uninformed. And considering some of the associations you've had, I hardly think that hat you're getting are ringing endorsements, especially in the way you seem to think they are.
This whole thread gave me a good laugh- thank you guys for your responses, I actually got some awesome answers for once. It is true, there are multiple paths to martial arts, and it means something to each of us, in our own way. That's not something which is always easy to remember, but I thank you all for the reminder.
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