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bushidomartialarts said:the techniques are, in fact, fairly simple and look to be very effective. the fella who posted different earlier must have seen something taken out of context.
I like the hooked canes myself. Straight canes and ones with a handle at 90 degrees don't grab as well. If there is no crook, its a baton, walking stick or Jo whatever you want to call it. Just my preference. PEACEBlackSheep said:You guys/gals that train with a cane, what do you prefer a straight handle or a curved one?
Thanks.
Hi JimiI like the hooked canes myself. Straight canes and ones with a handle at 90 degrees don't grab as well.
BlackSheep said:You guys/gals that train with a cane, what do you prefer a straight handle or a curved one?
Thanks.
definitely curved. there's a whole bunch of techniques the curved handle makes possible. capturing the leg/head/arm, scooping the groin...
I prefer to use one hand while swinging the cane & I use the other hand as a guard/live hand position like in the FMA's. I've trained using a two haned grip as well as a single handed grip for thrusts with the cane. Usually I use the 2 handed grip for close range thrusts much like military baton work, I aslo use a 1 handed grip for a longer thrust (much like a fencers thrust) typicaly to the groin or lower abdomin. This long thrust is usually used as a finisher or to help push an injured attacker away once other techniques have softened him, like a disengagment. I have also learned a lot of leg/foot picks with the hook sometimes followed by a groin hook into a possible throw. Aslo the hook can be used to lever against an arm and even the head. There are throws from hooking the head as well as headbutts, knee strikes and chokes. lots of fun stuff. The cane has allies, punches, kicks, knees, elbows etc...PeaceBlackSheep said:Hi Jimi
What do you prefer, a two handed grip when fighting or just one hand grip? If you prefer the one hand grip, what is the off hand doing?
Do you prefer to swing the cane or do you prefer to poke with it? Do you grapple using the cane?
If an assailant grabs the cane I will kick or knee to the groin/lower ab and retreact the cane tight, usually following with a release technique to twist his grip loose. Similar to short stick or baton weapon retention, it is possible to lever him into a better position to strike or control. Sometimes even striking the hands grabbing at my cane with my knees. My on guard stance with the cane is less like a kickboxing/boxing on guard. With the cane in my right hand, I have my right foot back (almost) in a cat or back stance and my left hand up palm out like I am warding someone off. if some-one engages the lead hand I give them the cane or kicks, what have you.BlackSheep said:Thanks for the reply Jimi.
I have a couple more questions for you or for anyone else too.
If your cane is grabbed by the assailant, what do you do?
What is your on guard position/stance like?
Flatlander said:You know, I looked through these sites. I don't think that there is anything there that you couldn't learn in any FMA. In fact, I think that you would recieve a much more rounded program from FMA instruction. That said, The one site showed a cane technique done by a 'little person'. That was interesting. I hadn't considered that before. Their size would demand a score of different technique pespective shifts. Got me thinking.
Don't mind questions like that at all. In the on guard position, the tip of the cane is pointing down, if not touching the ground 45 degrees almost beside me. Most of the sequences of movement I have learned start from there, except some movements from the form I learned, some of the movements start from either shoulder, hip or from a thrust to the ground (downing an opponent) as if I were already engaged with multiple attackers. I was taught to try to keep the tip down or touching the ground, keeps LEO's from considering me the aggressor and great groin shots start from there. NOTE: Do not do the Charlie Chaplin twirl thing with your cane around your Instructor if he is serious about the cane. PEACEBlackSheep said:Thanks again Jimi.
One more question if you dont mind?
In the on guard position, when holding the cane in your right hand, is the cane pointing at the assailant or is it held over your shoulder?
BlackSheep said:So you include grappling with striking when using the cane.
BlackSheep said:What is your favorite move using the cane to grapple with?
BlackSheep said:And while were at it, whats your favorite move using the cane to strike with?
BlackSheep said:And one final question, have you used your cane in a real fight? Please give details if you have, thanks.
BlackSheep said:If your cane is grabbed by the assailant, what do you do?
What is your on guard position/stance like?