Tell me something good...

[Dirty Dog]

I know a dude with five cairn terriers. They're awesome.

Ours is a bully. She will get on our bed and then growl and bark at the boys, basically refusing to let them on the bed. It's funny to watch.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

PIZZA NIGHT! Homemade pizza with homemade tomatoey gloop, anchovies, mushrooms, mozzarella, peppers and herbs

 

[Xue Sheng]

So far today, no one has done anything ridiculous that would tick me off and cause me work... and I'm leaving early, so..... it might actually be a good day

 

[HighKick]

PIZZA NIGHT! Homemade pizza with homemade tomatoey gloop, anchovies, mushrooms, mozzarella, peppers and herbs

Negative on the anchovies and mushrooms for me. Have fun!

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Negative on the anchovies and mushrooms for me. Have fun!

OK, I can make yours with ham and pepperoni if you prefer?

 

[HighKick]

OK, I can make yours with ham and pepperoni if you prefer?

I am a simple carnivore. Pepperoni, bacon, salami, and sausage for me. I also love a BBQ chicken pizza.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

I am a simple carnivore. Pepperoni, bacon, salami, and sausage for me. I also love a BBQ chicken pizza.

ooh, that sounds nice actually.

 

[Gyakuto]

…and not on the list of ultra-processed foods at all

 

[Stuarto]

I am a simple carnivore. Pepperoni, bacon, salami, and sausage for me. I also love a BBQ chicken pizza.

Meatlovers, my favorite kind of pizza

 

[HighKick]

…and not on the list of ultra-processed foods at all

How is flour and meat 'ultra-processed foods? Yes, the wheat and tomato's are processed but...

 

[Gyakuto]

How is flour and meat 'ultra-processed foods? Yes, the wheat and tomato's are processed but...

Ultra-processed foods are a category of packaged foods that have been through the most changes from their original state. Ultra-processed foods generally contain additives, preservatives and other substances extracted from foods. They've been linked to cancer and heart disease, among other conditions.

Examples of ultra-processed foods include ice cream, ham, bacon, sausages, crisps, mass-produced bread, breakfast cereals, biscuits, carbonated drinks, fruit-flavoured yogurts, instant soups, and some alcoholic drinks including whisky, gin, and rum.

 

[HighKick]

Ultra-processed foods are a category of packaged foods that have been through the most changes from their original state. Ultra-processed foods generally contain additives, preservatives and other substances extracted from foods. They've been linked to cancer and heart disease, among other conditions.

Examples of ultra-processed foods include ice cream, ham, bacon, sausages, crisps, mass-produced bread, breakfast cereals, biscuits, carbonated drinks, fruit-flavoured yogurts, instant soups, and some alcoholic drinks including whisky, gin, and rum.

By in large, it is not the processing (a grossly misused word) that is dangerous, especially when multiple additives, preservatives or colorants are used. For example, pulverizing wheat into flour does not change its content or DNA. Adding salt as a drying agent to meat and curing it does not change the meat. Of course, if that is the only meat you eat, your sodium levels are going to go through the roof (which was common before refrigeration was common). As for the cereals, drinks, yogurts, soups and such, I imagine the heavy use of artificial sweeteners and preservatives is a major contributor. Ah, the price we pay for convenience.
It is shocking to me how long a commercial brand loaf of bread will last these days. We buy our bread from the Amish and a loaf may last a week before starting to turn green.
This is where the conversation changes to GMO seeds and grains. It is getting harder to fine 'pure seed' nowadays. Good/bad? I am not smart enough to say. GMO does help feed the world, but it could be killing (at the individual level) as well.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

How is flour and meat 'ultra-processed foods? Yes, the wheat and tomato's are processed but...

Pepperoni, sausage, ham…

 

[Gyakuto]

By in large, it is not the processing (a grossly misused word) that is dangerous, especially when multiple additives, preservatives or colorants are used. For example, pulverizing wheat into flour does not change its content or DNA.

But it does increase the bioavailability of the carbohydrates within the food stuff, turning a low glycemic index food into a high glycemic index food causing a far faster rise in blood sugars which make be damaging to organs. Eating a piece of whole fruit with all it’s fibre is fine but smashing it up into a smoothie is not so good. Thus physically changing a foods structure has implications.

Adding salt as a drying agent to meat and curing it does not change the meat.

No but it adds sodium chloride a known issue in hypertension.

Of course, if that is the only meat you eat, your sodium levels are going to go through the roof (which was common before refrigeration was common). As for the cereals, drinks, yogurts, soups and such, I imagine the heavy use of artificial sweeteners and preservatives is a major contributor. Ah, the price we pay for convenience.

Again smashing up the food adds to the issue. Smashed cereals is processed food; not awful, but adding preservatives places it into the ultra-processed category.

It is shocking to me how long a commercial brand loaf of bread will last these days.

In the U.K. we used to be able to buy long life bread. It have a greyish hue and virtually didn’t require chewing. It seems to have disappeared from our shelves.

We buy our bread from the Amish and a loaf may last a week before starting to turn green.

You can have bread in your house for up to 7 days? Mine gets eaten within 2 if I’m being careful!

This is where the conversation changes to GMO seeds and grains. It is getting harder to fine 'pure seed' nowadays. Good/bad? I am not smart enough to say. GMO does help feed the world, but it could be killing (at the individual level) as well.

I can’t find a reason for the issue with GMO food stuffs. Humans have been altering the properties of food stuffs by selective breeding for millennia, GMO is just a more efficient way of introducing desirable genes (genotype) and their characteristics (phenotype) into an organism.

We’re all gonna die…

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

How much processing in a Mars bar?

 

[Gyakuto]

How much processing in a Mars bar?

As long as they’re swallowed whole they are very healthy.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

As long as they’re swallowed whole they are very healthy.

You have additional talents I see. Is there video?

 

[Gyakuto]

You have additional talents I see. Is there video?

I’m not providing you with titillating footage of my talent

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Come on, show us your talent

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I’m not providing you with titillating footage of my talent

Pretty please? With sugar and cream on top?