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[shane23ss]

I wanted to ask you TKD guys about your system. I am a Kenpoist, and haven't had any exposure to TKD.

1) Are there techniques in the system such as in Kenpo. Are they the requirements for belt promotions? If so, how many on average per belt?

2) Are sets such as kicking, blocking, punching, etc. the requirements for belt promotion?

3) Is flexibility taught and required for promotion?

4) How long on average does it take to earn your BB?

5) Is promotion based on a point system, such as in a lot of Judo schools?

Thanks for your comments.

 

[jfarnsworth]

You should have posted this in the TKD section.

1) Are there techniques in the system such as in Kenpo. Are they the requirements for belt promotions? If so, how many on average per belt?

There are self defense techniques but they are not like the kenpo techniques. Not quite as specific as you are used to. Yes, they are requirements per belt. The amount varies upon the organization, school, instructor.

2) Are sets such as kicking, blocking, punching, etc. the requirements for belt promotion?

No, there are basics of course but not put together in sets like you are used to.

3) Is flexibility taught and required for promotion?

Well the studio I went to did not base flexibility as a requirement for a promotion but heavily emphasized.

4) How long on average does it take to earn your BB?

Again, that can vary depending upon organ., instructor, etc. etc. generally 3-5yrs. Also it depends upon the individual and their progression in the art.

5) Is promotion based on a point system, such as in a lot of Judo schools?

Promotion was based upon how long you were in the studio at each belt. Being 2-3 months in the studio 2 days a week for 2hrs. per class made you eligable for yellow promotion. Although it made you eligable you still had to know all of the requirements before you could take the test.

 

[TigerWoman]

1) Are there techniques in the system such as in Kenpo. Are they the requirements for belt promotions? If so, how many on average per belt?

Techniques are usually individual, like round kick, 360 jump spin heel, tornado round kick, crescent kick, elbow strike, knife hand, etc.

But we also have 30 combination techniques we are tested on for self-defense
Some schools also do one-steps, three-step sparring techniques.

2) Are sets such as kicking, blocking, punching, etc. the requirements for belt promotion?

We have forms (poomse) which are different sets of stances, kicking, blocks, and punches for each level, also called belt or gup.

3) Is flexibility taught and required for promotion?

Flexibility is worked on somedays, not everyday with different kinds of stretching or flexibility exercise/technique. Flexibility like being able to split is not required but kicking to head level is required.

4) How long on average does it take to earn your BB?

To get to lst Dan, it usually takes 4 years, maybe 5. It depends how much you put into it. Twice a week is not as much as 5 times a week.

5) Is promotion based on a point system, such as in a lot of Judo schools?

Our master does it on the ten point system with a six as failure. But he allows you to keep trying whatever you missed/wrong until you get it right. If too much is wrong though, it has to be retested, he says.

There other parts to the tests however. Demonstration of kicks - 3 at first then at red belt increases to 30, sparring, breaking, questions, papers.

At BB testing, there are 200 rising kicks, each leg, 30 kicks done 3-6 times, both legs, also slow-motion kicks - 5 kicks/both legs x 3 times.Also all self defense technique. All 1-3 step sparring techniques. Alot more sparring and breaking and ten forms.

Depends on the master what criteria is given. And for WTF they follow Kukkiwon rules.

And since this is your meet and greet, welcome to the forum! TW

 

[shane23ss]

You should have posted this in the TKD section.

Yeah, I know that now. I'm just learning this site. sorry. I'll know better next time.

 

[shane23ss]

Thank you guys for your replies. I always like to hear about other systems.

 

[jfarnsworth]

Yeah, I know that now. I'm just learning this site. sorry. I'll know better next time.

I only stated that because you would have a better turn out on your thread is all.

 

[shane23ss]

I only stated that because you would have a better turn out on your thread is all.

Yeah, I know what you meant. Thanks for looking out.

Salute.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

I put in a request to relocate the thread for ya. No worries.

 

[shane23ss]

I put in a request to relocate the thread for ya. No worries.

Thanks.

Salute:asian:

 

[Zepp]

Hiya Shane. Just to let you know, there's more than one style of TKD, so the answers you're going to get will vary by style and organization. The answers which I can give you are specific to the World TKD Association.

1) Are there techniques in the system such as in Kenpo. Are they the requirements for belt promotions? If so, how many on average per belt?

Good technique is required for promotions at all levels, but performing individual techniques isn't a part of testing. Our instructors watch our technique all along, and we don't test if it isn't up to par.

2) Are sets such as kicking, blocking, punching, etc. the requirements for belt promotion?

See above question.

3) Is flexibility taught and required for promotion?

Yes, but only to a point. Some people, due to a combination of health issues, and age they start training, will never be able to kick at their own head height. Some allowances are sometimes made.

4) How long on average does it take to earn your BB?

Average time is about 4 years. I received mine after 3. I know some people who took more than 5. Also, only our grandmaster can test for and award dan ranks, and he's on the east coast, so that's an additional barrier for some people in terms of rank.

5) Is promotion based on a point system, such as in a lot of Judo schools?

Nope. There may be , but not with my instructor, not with our grandmaster, and not with any instructors I've heard of.

Thanks for your comments.

You're welcome. :asian: I hope I've answered your questions satisfactorily.

 

[shane23ss]

Thanks for your response Zepp. I figured there would be several different answers, just wasn't sure how many different types of TKD were out there. Shame on me for being uneducated.

Another quick question for you "multi" arted folks. I hear TKD is "THE" system to learn to increase your kicking arsenal, is this true?

 

[TigerWoman]

I'm not multi-arted but... there are 45 kicks that I know of at 2nd, probably alot of different variations and combinations after that. We train really hard at kicking, probably 90% of the time. When you do 1000 kicks and alot of them jumping in an hour, naturally TKDoists have the lead in that department. In fact we will probably have our 6000 front kick/in 60 min. marathon before adjourning for Christmas--our present from the master. TW

 

[jfarnsworth]

At this point and time I'd prefer to to bang out as many self defense techniques on a body in 60 minutes vs. just kicking. To each his own. :asian:

 

[TigerWoman]

At this point and time I'd prefer to to bang out as many self defense techniques on a body in 60 minutes vs. just kicking. To each his own. :asian:

Not my choice. But I like a hard workout, just not on my hamstrings. TW

 

[jfarnsworth]

I understand. I have no desire to do that kind of stuff anymore. Besides my right knee wouldn't be able to take that kind of punishment anymore. I have never pulled any muscle before until about 3 months ago when I pulled my left ham. I was demonstrating a hook kick and the moment I did that kick I knew I was in for some trouble. What a bumber and still nursing it.

 

[Zepp]

Another quick question for you "multi" arted folks. I hear TKD is "THE" system to learn to increase your kicking arsenal, is this true?

My experience in other martial arts is limited, but from what I've seen, TKD doesn't have any unique or "secret" kicks. What it does have is a larger emphasis on kicking compared to most other arts. TKD training will certainly improve someone's kicking, but in most cases, so would just devoting more time practicing kicks. I would generally discourage someone from training in TKD if there's only one aspect of it they're interested in. Personally, I've found TKD to be excellent training in hand strikes as well.

 

[Miles]

I wanted to ask you TKD guys about your system. I am a Kenpoist, and haven't had any exposure to TKD.


Shane, a student of Taekwondo is a Taekwondoin.


1) Are there techniques in the system such as in Kenpo. Are they the requirements for belt promotions? If so, how many on average per belt?

2) Are sets such as kicking, blocking, punching, etc. the requirements for belt promotion?

The Kukkiwon (World Taekwondo Headquarters located in Seoul, Korea) has general requirements for black belt promotion. It is up to the individual instructor to teach the prerequisite 8 Taeguek poomsae (forms) and the myriad of techniques. The elements of Taekwondo are hoshinsul (self-defense), kyukpa (breaking), poomsae (forms) and kyorugi (full-contact sparring).

3) Is flexibility taught and required for promotion?

Taekwondo stresses kicking techniques so most dojangs (schools) do a fair amount of stretching and plyometric training.

4) How long on average does it take to earn your BB?

This varies from instructor to instructor, but most of the dojang I'm familiar with promote a regularly training student in 3-5 years.


5) Is promotion based on a point system, such as in a lot of Judo schools?

No.

Thanks for your comments.

You are welcome!

Miles

 

[Zepp]

Shane, a student of Taekwondo is a Taekwondoin.

Not that it really matters, but I've also seen the term Tae Kwon Doist used in print by GM Son. This was in a couple of old books that he wrote in the 70's (60's?) so maybe he also uses the term Tae Kwon Doin nowadays.

 

[shane23ss]

I want to thank everyone again for your comments. I'm learning some new things.

 

[Miles]

Not that it really matters, but I've also seen the term Tae Kwon Doist used in print by GM Son. This was in a couple of old books that he wrote in the 70's (60's?) so maybe he also uses the term Tae Kwon Doin nowadays.

Actually Zepp, it matters from the perspective of the Kukkiwon which seeks to standardize Taekwondo (which is why it is spelled like that instead of 3 separate words). :>)

Miles