Steve
Mostly Harmless
ThE only issue I have here is that this is like a turtle who lives in a large pond tellin the frog in his well about an ocean neither of them have seen.
State of Mind when Fighting?
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.. least they are good company for their selves while the other animals gathered around roll their eyes to the heavens..
Yes, but fantasy can also have a real world grounding that you are failing to grasp bear! A warrior is medieval
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Yes, but fantasy can also have a real world grounding that you are failing to grasp bear! A warrior is medieval
sigh.........
And why is that?
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Zero
Master Black Belt
ShotoNoob, sorry have been away having to make a living so will respond but I see since your post about ten pages of comments has subsequently been written on fantasy warriors, small frogs in wells and how everything on an army website trying to drum up recruits should be taken as gospel truth...
Like I have said earlier, from my own personal experience, both in competitive fighting (which I doubt you have participated in, please correct me if my assumption is wrong?) and from sparring and training in the dojo, military personnel, officers or otherwise, are no better as martial artists, or sport fighters, than civilians that train diligently. So your comments as to military police (who granted have more experience generally than your average soldier in at least breaking up altercations and dealing with ne'er-do-wells) or soldiers sparring you doesn't count for much in itself.
Again, the statement of someone that has never competed at a high level or partaken in a ring fight. Look at any footage going however far back you like, please go as far back as you like, of the All Japan Karate Competition kumite. They are there, but there are very few fights in which the opponent is literally KO'd in the first second of fighting. You are really saying that you are so good that I am not going to get to Round Two and you are going to be able to smash my face in in a matter of seconds? I assume you are applying this to any one who stands against you?
Like I have said earlier, from my own personal experience, both in competitive fighting (which I doubt you have participated in, please correct me if my assumption is wrong?) and from sparring and training in the dojo, military personnel, officers or otherwise, are no better as martial artists, or sport fighters, than civilians that train diligently. So your comments as to military police (who granted have more experience generally than your average soldier in at least breaking up altercations and dealing with ne'er-do-wells) or soldiers sparring you doesn't count for much in itself.
If I mistook your context then my bad, although I don't think it was clear from your post you were talking about the personal rather than ring context. That said ShotoNoob, I think you fall down on your own reasoning and in fact I find it even more questionable that you are saying you don't need a "corner man" in your personal life and in MA outside of sport/competition. This seems to conflict with your earlier statements that you already train with a "master" or teacher in Shotokan - if you don't need a ring man or someone giving you guidance in MA, then why the need for taking lessons in class? Traditional martial arts despite what you say is about students following and listening to the guidance of the sifu/sensei - is that not your "personal corner man"?
Again, the statement of someone that has never competed at a high level or partaken in a ring fight. Look at any footage going however far back you like, please go as far back as you like, of the All Japan Karate Competition kumite. They are there, but there are very few fights in which the opponent is literally KO'd in the first second of fighting. You are really saying that you are so good that I am not going to get to Round Two and you are going to be able to smash my face in in a matter of seconds? I assume you are applying this to any one who stands against you?
Please provide some supporting evidence, or at least source where you are getting this from, what are you drawing on to make this claim? Would be helpful to know.
Ah, as you asked, no, am not interested in interviewing but thanks, I make much better money in my current job than most if not all fighters in professional MMA/UFC, but thanks...maybe when I was much younger I would have loved to give something like the UFC a shot if I could have got to that level (yet another dream unfulfilled, sigh...)
In my (considerable) experience MMA fighters, boxers and other martial artists who take part in competitions have actually more of a competitive mind set than a 'fighting one'. yes they of course they fight but they fight with the aim of winning the competition so approach a fight differently from someone who is fighting for their life after being attacked. In competitive fighters minds are the tactics worked out for the specific opponent, things like not making stupid mistakes, watching for their opponents tells and mistakes, listening to their corners ( of course you need a corner, why on earth wouldn't you!) and trying to keep a move or two ahead of their opponent. They are working to a game plan...or at least they should be! I have seen 'fighters' enter the ring/cage looking like rabbits in the headlights though. Methinks they were thinking altogether about all the wrong things.
There are more available tactics in a real fight than a sportive fight.
Examples:
*throwing a small but heavy object at your opponent, like a rock or a coffee mug.
*using racial slurs to throw the enemy off balance.
*pummeling the top or back of their heads.
*ambush.
And much much more. Lol
The way I see it, there are specialists (karateka, judoka, boxer), and then there are mixed martial artists, and then there are real life fighters.
From left to right, the level of concentrated skill becomes weaker while the level of dynamism gets higher.
As far as which guys are better, that goes to the realm of calculus professors and quantum physicians. Because even some decorated fighters out there can get incredibly biased. The latter probably have never seen an MMA bout and are completely fair and unbiased about the whole thing...
And most importantly, they have more brains than brawn.
Examples:
*throwing a small but heavy object at your opponent, like a rock or a coffee mug.
*using racial slurs to throw the enemy off balance.
*pummeling the top or back of their heads.
*ambush.
And much much more. Lol
The way I see it, there are specialists (karateka, judoka, boxer), and then there are mixed martial artists, and then there are real life fighters.
From left to right, the level of concentrated skill becomes weaker while the level of dynamism gets higher.
As far as which guys are better, that goes to the realm of calculus professors and quantum physicians. Because even some decorated fighters out there can get incredibly biased. The latter probably have never seen an MMA bout and are completely fair and unbiased about the whole thing...
And most importantly, they have more brains than brawn.
The why is that in the modern day world, what would a warrior be. Some street skilled killer? Someone who is Roman renactment warrior on the weekend? Just think the term warrior is way out of context in modern day parlance. Mmm, should I also sigh
ShotoNoob
Master Black Belt
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Heck, actually as far a blog content goes, the parables and analogies were nicely written & enjoyable. This kinda literary contribution is welcome on blogs, adds social & entertainment value, not just a lesson. Hey, I don't have the technique to do this, I was speaking a bit TIC.
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I skipped most of your deposition. I see you can produce 'billable hours,' when the real work is slacking. We're lucky you're able to squeeze us into your prolific schedule. One thing you forget to point out is that you have 43 trophy points to my 8. Didn't make any headway in my business today so I'm jealous about that too....a slip up in the "state of mind" department on my part....
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
The why is that in the modern day world, what would a warrior be. Some street skilled killer? Someone who is Roman renactment warrior on the weekend? Just think the term warrior is way out of context in modern day parlance. Mmm, should I also sigh
Because modern people don't fight? Or that in olden times people who fought had some sort of more romantic ethos.
donald1
Senior Master
state of mind? focused on exactly what im doing.
that makes me think of a quote...
“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.” ― guatama buddha
what? i dont understand where your going with this?? are you talking about anger as fundemental
marques
Master Black Belt
In combat competition or fast sparring I used to just observe myself moving, amotional (Mushin?). Maybe some 'reflexion' going on sometimes.
In normal (slow) sparring I like to see, memorize and analyze (latter) the training situations. Once more, without emotions (ideally).
Too much emotions (or ego) and fighting becomes monkey fight. And your skills go away... Maybe a little angry helps.
In normal (slow) sparring I like to see, memorize and analyze (latter) the training situations. Once more, without emotions (ideally).
Too much emotions (or ego) and fighting becomes monkey fight. And your skills go away... Maybe a little angry helps.
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