Slut Walks

[Touch Of Death]

Again, you conflate promiscuity with cheating. Hint: not everyone dates the people they have sex with. Not all promiscuous people date or have sex with multiple people at the same time. Another Hint: there exist a certain number of couples with open marriages, at least one of which that I know of that has children. They do more or less the same as other couples. Not everyone conceives of sex and family in the narrow way you do, and thus your views cannot be universalized.



You have put no arguments forward as to how it is a character flaw, so no it isn't obvious to me. I know of promiscuous people who have families (polyamory and the like) that have loving family lives, and monogamous families which are miserable. You have put nothing forward to make promiscuity a character flaw in respect to the family or anything else.

My case is already universalized. You are the one coming up against the status quo. Secondly, I'm sure you know of anecdotal cases where people are happy sleeping around, but it defies the sense of community people who think like me like to create and maintain. Sluts and Manwhores get shunned. Lastly the family overides a person's individual happiness, and part a what religion is and does is to help ease the pain of losing the right to run around screwing everyone in sight, in favor of playing a the role of Mother, Father, husband and wife. The very word husband means banded to the hussy. Marriage is an agreement to value your children over yourself.
Sean

 

[RandomPhantom700]

Again, you conflate promiscuity with cheating. Hint: not everyone dates the people they have sex with. Not all promiscuous people date or have sex with multiple people at the same time.

I'm writing this as a devil's advocate of sorts. I'm still on the fence about the whole open marriage/polyamory can of worms. That said, within the context of Western society, I think that it's generally expected that sex and dating imply a relationship of at least some level of commitment. That's the norm, the expectation. So arguably, someone who dates multiple people or just has casual sex is disregarding these expectations of the other person.

We've all heard of hook ups and friends with benefits, but I think those are still regarded as behaviors that are part of a stage, or as outliers. The norm remains to be the one-person-at-a-time dating.

Another Hint: there exist a certain number of couples with open marriages, at least one of which that I know of that has children. They do more or less the same as other couples. Not everyone conceives of sex and family in the narrow way you do, and thus your views cannot be universalized.

I don't see why anything has to be universalized. All of this discussion is within the context of Western culture. Again, within our culture, single dating is the norm, and a promiscuous person conflicts with that. I'm not saying it's "immoral" per se, but I can see how hurt feelings and jealousy would be an inherent risk, and thus within the context of our culture develop the stigma that you're now questioning.

My attempt at explaining the viewpoint, feel free to refute.

 

[Sukerkin]

Whilst pondering the aspects of this thread, I looked a little deeper into what is on YouTube, of all places,about this issue. I came across a short advert, I'm guessing that was South Africa transmission only, that had Charlize Theron fronting the message that 1 in 3 SA women are the victims of rape.

I know that base impulses lurk in us all (male and female) and that some are only constrained from doing evil by the rule of law but words cannot describe my reaction to that. Even allowing for the figure to be an exageration ... say WHAT!?

I've not considered myself to have had a sheltered upbringing but I cannot get my head around a statistic like that.

The technical quality of the video is not great as the audio is out of synch but that really does not matter:

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[Sukerkin]

Is smoking immoral? Is overeating immoral? Are extreme sports or riding motorcycles immoral? All public health issues, yet it is rare that any of those issues are treated the same way as promiscuity.

I don't think that the examples you give are really comparing like with like, EH.

Such examples as passive smoking are not the same playing field, for the public health issue of promiscuity is one of hidden disease. It is a 'stealthy' risk factor, a danger that cannot easily be avoided without breaching an awful lot of social mores and codes of conduct. After all, you can't really ask up front "Well? Have you got any STD's I should know about?"

Labelling it (promiscuity) as "immoral" is emotive but I wouldn't argue all that strongly against so styling it. It is immoral in the same way as driving whilst inoxicated is, for such behaviour puts others directly at risk.

What must not be concluded from my words is that I countenance any perjorative difference between a "Tom" cat or an "Alley" cat. Both genders indulging in such behaviours generate similar risk factors for all those they come in 'contact' with during their 'adventures'.

 

[Touch Of Death]

I don't think that the examples you give are really comparing like with like, EH.

Such examples as passive smoking are not the same playing field, for the public health issue of promiscuity is one of hidden disease. It is a 'stealthy' risk factor, a danger that cannot easily be avoided without breaching an awful lot of social mores and codes of conduct. After all, you can't really ask up front "Well? Have you got any STD's I should know about?"

Labelling it (promiscuity) as "immoral" is emotive but I wouldn't argue all that strongly against so styling it. It is immoral in the same way as driving whilst inoxicated is, for such behaviour puts others directly at risk.

What must not be concluded from my words is that I countenance any perjorative difference between a "Tom" cat or an "Alley" cat. Both genders indulging in such behaviours generate similar risk factors for all those they come in 'contact' with during their 'adventures'.

Not to mention the example you set for others.:ultracool

 

[Flea]

Suke ... 1 in 3 ... wow. I had a time of it with harassment when I was there, but I didn't realize it was that bad.

I don't remember where I heard the figure, but I believe its the same proportion in the US military. Sobering.

 

[Sukerkin]

Sobering indeed, Flea.

Given the inarguable fact that rape is almost exclusively (the exceptions are pretty rarified) an act of violence perpetrated upon women, I am ashamed of my gender that such offences are so common.