Originally posted by Chiduce
Kirk, anyone could do the same including myself. Dr. Durbin does not have what you called followers followers or the like. He is a martial arts historian and his conclusions are based on sources of reliability or the most reliable for the time. Since you are not a historian and myself either; we cannot even come close to the conclusions that these practioner's come up with. They are the most reliable sources of information that we have as practitioners to the puzzles whic exist within our art!
Okay, where to begin? Does Dr Durbin claim a lineage to Mitose?
Is Dr Durbin the only M.A. Historian to research Mitose? Do all
M.A. Historians agree with Dr Durbin's conclusions about Mr
Mitose?
The use of the word "followers" was in reference to those he
claimed to interview about Mr Mitose. He stated they were those
closely associated with Mitose ... followers.
I take it also that you are not a soke or founder of a system of your own.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm merely stating
that you claimed in your previous post that the article given was
the "REAL" story about Mitose. You didn't state that it was the
real story, "in your opinion". The point is, that the article,
although well written, and authoritative provides no proof, other
than "I interviewed people who have a close association with
Mr Mitose" which to me are biased people in the first place.
Open-mindedness is a part of virtue to learn as much as we can according to the martial way in which we choose to take.
YEP!
Dr. Durbin is also a minister. I'am prone more to trust in the information which a minister has to offer than a non-minister concerning such a delicate issue such as this.
No offense to you sir, or Dr. Durbin, but there's quite a few
sexually molested altar boys who have been prone to trust a
man of the cloth as well.
The fact that Dr. Durbin also, is in alliance with Menkyo Nimr Hassan also provides a glimpse into the world of Master Mitose's Kosho Ryu!
Okay, that means nothing to me. Smells a lot like a personal
lineage to Mitose though! This is a bias, plain and simple. I'm
an EPAK student, I instantly put more faith into a learned, ranking
EPAK'ist ... I admit bias, but ALWAYS try to have an open mind.
So, i would look further if i did not believe or agree and contact these people through e-mail or phone etc, and see what info, that they have to offer.
No need .. I'm only disagreeing with you saying it's the "REAL"
story of Mitose. You don't know, I don't know, there's no proof.
[B Also, you had to be told about your style, teacher and founder. So, believing the masses does not always mean that you are getting the truth also. The original story from one person to the other will always be twisted to fit the person telling the story's needs. Yet, making presumptions is just that.[/B]
I never said that I was getting the truth .. but again, I admit my
bias as well. I never said what was true and what wasn't. My
PERSONAL belief is that Mitose was a con man. And everytime I
say anything like that .. I say "this is what I heard" or "this is my
opinion" ... I never say "the REAL truth is that Mitose is a con
man" .. EVER!!! I don't presume to know a bloody thing. I know
nothing! But I believe those around me, that care to give me
whatever knowledge they possess, and treat me with decency.
It's not everyday that men of high caliber spend their time feeding
me information via the net, on the mat, on the phone, whatever.
The information I've recieved was just as plausible and well
said/written as Dr. Durbin's. And plenty of these people claim to
have researched it as well. It's the EXACT SAME as you, only
we're loyal to different sides of the fence. The only difference, is
I've never presented something as the absolute truth ... you did.
Even in court the person is suppose to be innocent, until
proven guilty! Not, guilty by reason of someone elses and your
own opinions.
Well in reference to Mitose, which is what I think this is all about ..
he was proven guilty, wasn't he?
Sincerely, in biasedness,
Kirk
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