RVD home study...

[Shizen Shigoku]

Technopunk: "does the RVD home study course cover all the material in the... er... whassitcalled... tenchijin?"

tenchijin: http://starbuck.virtualave.net/main/ninpo/tenchijin.htm

rvd hsc: http://www.ninjutsu.com/shodan-curriculum.shtml

 

[Kizaru]

Technopunk: "does the RVD home study course cover all the material in the... er... whassitcalled... tenchijin?"

tenchijin: http://starbuck.virtualave.net/main/ninpo/tenchijin.htm

rvd hsc: http://www.ninjutsu.com/shodan-curriculum.shtml[/QUOTE]


Both of the lists at those links have omissions and/or additions.

 

[Shizen Shigoku]

. . . not to mention the frequent confusion between the Ten Chi Jin Ryaku no Maki, and the Togakure Ryu Ninpo Taijutsu book - which is divided into Ten, Chi, and Jin sections.

 

[DWeidman]

The bujinkan guide to everything you are supposed to know by blackbelt.

The TCJRnM is what you are supposed to know by Godan - not blackbelt.

-Daniel

PS - and for Kizaru - the Japanese version is the preferred version. Anything close, however, is a good step in the right direction - despite your objections to the translation issues....

 

[Shizen Shigoku]

DWeidman: "The TCJRnM is what you are supposed to know by Godan - not blackbelt."

Well that seems more manageable then, and also explains why one shidoshi told me that all that was required for shodan was proficiency in ukemi, sanshin, and kihon happo - which is only part of the Ten Ryaku section.

I'm curious, since I've only seen samples and outlines of the TCJ, does it include any weapons training? What are the usual guidelines for weapons proficiency by shodan? by godan?

If only the Ten Ryaku is required for shodan, when should the majority of the Chi Ryaku be covered? When should one be learning mostly from the Jin Ryaku?

The RVD HSC seems to be drawn mostly from the Ten and Chi sections + at least one weapon focused on per kyu rank.

 

[davidg553]

Well that seems more manageable then, and also explains why one shidoshi told me that all that was required for shodan was proficiency in ukemi, sanshin, and kihon happo - which is only part of the Ten Ryaku section.
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If only the Ten Ryaku is required for shodan, when should the majority of the Chi Ryaku be covered? When should one be learning mostly from the Jin Ryaku?

The majority of the syllabus that I have seen, tend to include both Ten and Chi in their kyuu syllabus. The idea being that from shodan - yondan, one is studying the kata in order to learn the principles and strategies contained therein. In order to be focused on this objective, one should have already learned the parts that make up the kata hence the training of both Ten and Chi during the kyuu levels.

 

[Scooter]

The TCJRnM is what you are supposed to know by Godan - not blackbelt.

That is what we use as the standard for shodan

 

[DWeidman]

That is what we use as the standard for shodan

Um.... Ok.

Who is the "we" found in your quote?

It is my understanding that Hatsumi put the TCJRnM as a guide of things you are supposed to know by the time you test for your Godan. If you want to put it all in 9th kyu - knock yourself out...

-Daniel

PS. You will note the TCJRnM isn't broken down by Kyu or Dan - it is a guide - not a curriculum...