Push on your opponent's shoulder when he punches you
- Thread starter Kung Fu Wang
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Especially if he was eating soup. Oyster crackers flying all over the place, wet napkins.
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Here are examples. It can be used to set up a clinch.
https://i.postimg.cc/2y5T0kGj/Chang-head-lock.gif
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Martial D
Senior Master
Oh . Huh cool. I've never done a tournament where strikes were allowed.
Interesting thread. Was the OP describing sparring or situational SD?
If SD, then this is a technique which can and does work well for a hook, especially haymaker from someone who is not trained.
block the swing on the lower arm, and straight arm the shoulder. As others noted, disrupts the attackers flow. Low risk from the other hand of the attacker, as a quick pivot allows the same defense on the other side if they try to wail on you.
Keeps you defensive, which might be beneficial (vs a pre-emptive face strike which in many jurisdictions will have you in trouble). Does not preclude an immediate strike either - pivot and use the lower arm to strike the neck/head of the attacker - or jab with the stopping arm immediately after the disrupt.
Not a defense against a trained fighter IMO, so not a ring technique that I can see - which is why you don't see it taught for 'sport'.
I'm currently well bruised up from exactly this technique being worked on for both swinging (forehand) knife and attacks as well as punch. The key is the next move after the disrupting jar to the shoulder. In isolation you'll just be exposing your chin (as noted), and lower torso to the attackers other hand/arm.
If SD, then this is a technique which can and does work well for a hook, especially haymaker from someone who is not trained.
block the swing on the lower arm, and straight arm the shoulder. As others noted, disrupts the attackers flow. Low risk from the other hand of the attacker, as a quick pivot allows the same defense on the other side if they try to wail on you.
Keeps you defensive, which might be beneficial (vs a pre-emptive face strike which in many jurisdictions will have you in trouble). Does not preclude an immediate strike either - pivot and use the lower arm to strike the neck/head of the attacker - or jab with the stopping arm immediately after the disrupt.
Not a defense against a trained fighter IMO, so not a ring technique that I can see - which is why you don't see it taught for 'sport'.
I'm currently well bruised up from exactly this technique being worked on for both swinging (forehand) knife and attacks as well as punch. The key is the next move after the disrupting jar to the shoulder. In isolation you'll just be exposing your chin (as noted), and lower torso to the attackers other hand/arm.
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OP
It should work in the ring when both persons are on guard.
https://i.postimg.cc/tTHJc6NP/punch-shoulder.gif
chiquest
Yellow Belt
My GrandMaster, Florentino S. PanciPanci, utilized this technique extensively. It requires a great amount of experience to identify and react to the attack that early, though.
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OP
Old saying said, "If your opponent moves his left shoulder back, he will throw a right punch."
My arms are short in comparison to many people I spar with. I'm going to give this one. Review of . Bad idea for people with shorter arms than the person punching lol.
This is when I do the technique. An opponent throws a punch = punch is already out of the gate. Me striking my opponent as he begins his punch = I'm striking my opponent before he can complete this beginning stage of his punch. This is much safer than trying to do the same thing when that punch is out of the gate.
Gaucho
Orange Belt
It seems to me that if your reflexes are such that you can see an opponent launching a punch and you can punch the opponent's shoulder before the punch arrives, then your reflexes are better than the opponent's reflexes and you could probably do a number of thing to avoid the punch, such as blocking, ducking, or punching the opponent on the nose.
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OP
Your reason may be:
- You don't want when you punch land on your opponent's nose, his punch may also land on your nose.
- His shoulder (or forarm) is closer to your fist than his nose is.
- ...
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Which is the concept of a check hook.
Exept the check hook actually has an effect on the other guy.
Notice part of this is baiting the guy in to throwing the hand you want him to throw.
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drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
I had a mate of mine do a sports jujitsu comp once. And he didn't know slap jitsu was a thing either.
Until he got popped.
That's not the way you want to find that out.
OP
OP
The foot sweep and low roundhouse kick are similar, Judo guys get low roundhouse kick on the legs all the time.
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OP
Since your opponent can lean his head back, your punch that can reach to his shoulder may not be able to reach to his head.
It's like 2 persons in a sword fight. A swings sword to cut B's head off. At the same time, B also swings sword to cut A's head off. Nobody win in that situation. Unless you have so much hate that you want o die with your opponent, you should consider your own safety more than hurting your opponent.
In the following clip, A punches at B. B use both hands to block that punch (1 hand on the leading arm, one hand on the shoulder). Since A's left hand is free, A will punch B with it. B then wraps A's left arm, and do his thing. In the whole process, B considers his own safety first.
https://i.postimg.cc/zfbBNKLD/Chang-head-lock.gif
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OP
The main purpose of this thread discussion is not just to push on your opponent's shoulder when he punches you. The key discussion of this thread is to interrupt your opponent's attack during the initial stage with the minimum amount of effort.
It goes back to the long guard vs. short guard discussion. Do you want to use your
- short guard to cover your head when your opponent punches your head?
- long guard to interrupt his punch far away from your head?
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