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Dan Savage and Jane Lynch

He created the 'It Gets Better' video campaign. She stars in 'Glee,' the gayest show in the history of network TV. So we thought: who better to ask about the gay lay of the land?


by Jessica BennettDecember 20, 2010
Newsweek EXCERPT:
Sex-advice columnist Dan Savage and actor Jane Lynch in Los Angeles.


Cheeky sex columnist meets fire-tongued cheerleading coach. Both were in Los Angeles to support the Trevor Project, a suicide-prevention organization for LGBT youth. We put them in a room together–and it's fair to say that neither held back. From parenthood to coming out to the sexual orientation of a certain (male) Supreme Court justice, Dan Savage and Jane Lynch gleefully tackled it all. They sat down with NEWSWEEK's Jessica Bennett. Excerpts:


It’s been a big year in gay rights: marriage, “don’t ask, don’t tell,” bullying. Are you surprised there are still so many battles?


Lynch: Yes, we thought the great hope of Obama was going to magically change all that, and it doesn’t seem to have…


Savage: …had the intended effect.


Lynch: He’s just nicely walking the middle.


Savage: And unfortunately, when you split the difference on gay and lesbian people, what you wind up with is no legislative progress. You get a lot of nice speeches, you get invited to cocktail parties, and we have s--t to show for it.







Which barrier will fall first?


Lynch: Oh, God, I have no idea. “Don’t ask, don’t tell” looks like it’s not going to happen, and John McCain wants 13 more hearings because he’s not sure yet.
[Editor’s note: the Senate had not scheduled a vote on DADT when this interview was conducted.]


Savage: F--k John McCain—put that in NEWSWEEK.


Lynch: Yeah, I say it too, to the second power.


Savage: Really, when it comes to gay rights, there’s two wars going on. The first war is political. But the culture war is over. Between Glee and Ellen and how integrated and accepted LGBT adults are, that’s done. So it’s very frustrating to be steeped in how culturally accepted we are and know that there’s all these legislative things that we just can’t seem to make any progress on.


How long until there’s an openly gay president or Supreme Court justice?


Savage: Scalia isn’t gay?!? I always think the biggest homophobe in the room is clearly a c--ksucker!
END EXCERPT
Picture, if you're honest enough, a conservative using the same language to describe actual gay people, and the riotous brouhaha that would ensue.
 
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