Brandon Miller
Green Belt
No we don’t. It seems more about training forms jumping kicks and getting a good workout in a non contact environment. It’s called Kim’s Taekwon-do Portland
non-contact traditional Taekwondo
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MadMartigan
Blue Belt
I'm probably a bad one to ask (being a tkd guy myself). I've certainly seen some very good training in Wado Kai, Shotokan, and Kyokoshin. If I was in that situation, I'd probably try Shotokan 1st if available
Samurai Mind
White Belt
What style of tkd do you train?
MadMartigan
Blue Belt
A mostly forgotten version of ITF style (not affiliated) from when it was still more Karate styled and before sine wave. We do light to moderate contact sparring and focus heavily on generating power through hip rotation.
Earl Weiss
Senior Master
Do you know your lineage? Your instructor? Their instructor etc.
MadMartigan
Blue Belt
Yes. Our school was originally founded in the 1970s by Kwon, Tae Sung. I believe he was originally with Chung Do Kwan, but I can't find any definitive information about that. In the interest of internet privacy, I'll send you some further details privately sir.
Earl Weiss
Senior Master
Well, that would put him in line with Han Cha Kyo who was also a CDK product and did non contact sparring.
J. Pickard
Brown Belt
How are they gonna stop you?
Non contact sparring isn't unheard of in schools that maybe don't have great liability insurance or teach out of a church or rec center. If the whole association is nothing but Non-contact and you want to learn how to actually pressure test your techniques then you will be left wanting. You need some level of contact/pressure testing for practical MA training. The biggest red flag I see from what you posted is the fact that they won't let you compete outside of your association. This can sometimes (but not always) be a sign that its an MA cult/mcdojo.
Ultimately if you aren't enjoying it then it may be time for something new. If you like the way they do techniques then maybe a Shotokan school would be a good fit since early TKD was basically just a Korean version of Shotokan.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
And it's non contact. I mean they are hardly going to beat you up over the issue.
It's OK to
- not have sex when you are old. If you don't have sex when you are young,
- do non contack when you are old. If you do non contact when you are young,
your life will have an empty hole.
Brandon Miller
Green Belt
I’m actually going to switch to one of the best competitor WTF kukki schools in my entire metro. They produce state and national competitors. I’ll get some contact there and overall develop great skills. It’s coached by former Taekwondo champions. Also it’s closer to my house.
Earl Weiss
Senior Master
One of Han Cha Kyo's students told me he asked him about non contact sparring and his response was in the military that they could not risk injury from contact sparring because because they might need to go into combat and fight for real at any moment.
NAM, Tae-hi (남태희; 南太熙; 19 March 1929 – 7 November 2013) was a pioneering South Korean master of taekwondo, and is known as the 'Father of Vietnamese Taekwondo.' With Hong Hi Choi, he co-founded the Oh Do Kwan and led the twelve original masters of taekwondo of the Korean Taekwon-Do Association (KTA).
While fighting in the Korean War, Nam gained famed for hand-to-hand combat during the Battle on Yongmun Mountain:
"In the dark, Nam heard a noise, ran into somebody, and tried to grab the man's hair during the scuffle. The Chinese soldier was trying to do the same. With no light, the only way to distinguish friend from foe was by grabbing at a head, because communists had crew cuts and South Koreans had slightly longer hair. In that trench, Nam felt short hair — almost bald — and he struck. His enemy fell."He heard another soldier. He punched, flailed. Ran on. As the two armies fought in the dark trenches, Nam tapped men's heads when he could. Crew cut meant attack; long hair, pull back. He could not use a bayonet and fought with his hands all night, thinking of nothing — no mind — stumbling through the dark, striking , kneeing, moving. When he fell, he would stand again. The next day, the communists retreated from the trenches and the fighting continued with guns... The next day's battle ended as night fell, but Nam kept fighting. Most of his thirty-one men were dead, and he had not slept for three nights. He had not eaten in how many days? He worked out that he had missed nine meals. He collapsed from exhaustion..."That day, during the retreat, Nam wandered to a spot where he had fought during the night before. He found many dead bodies and counted more than two dozen with no bullet or knife wounds. They were the ones he had hit during the night, the ones with broken faces and bones, but there was no time to dwell on these things. Seeing the Chinese divisions weakened , all the South Koreans, including the main line ten kilometres away, counter-attacked and chased the communists over Yongmun Mountain. Thanks to Nam and his battalion, one Korean division backed by an American division defeated three communist divisions. The battle would soon be in Korea's military records: a famous, horrific lesson in how to defend a mountain top against a 360-degree attack.
NAM, Tae-hi (남태희; 南太熙; 19 March 1929 – 7 November 2013) was a pioneering South Korean master of taekwondo, and is known as the 'Father of Vietnamese Taekwondo.' With Hong Hi Choi, he co-founded the Oh Do Kwan and led the twelve original masters of taekwondo of the Korean Taekwon-Do Association (KTA).
While fighting in the Korean War, Nam gained famed for hand-to-hand combat during the Battle on Yongmun Mountain:
"In the dark, Nam heard a noise, ran into somebody, and tried to grab the man's hair during the scuffle. The Chinese soldier was trying to do the same. With no light, the only way to distinguish friend from foe was by grabbing at a head, because communists had crew cuts and South Koreans had slightly longer hair. In that trench, Nam felt short hair — almost bald — and he struck. His enemy fell."He heard another soldier. He punched, flailed. Ran on. As the two armies fought in the dark trenches, Nam tapped men's heads when he could. Crew cut meant attack; long hair, pull back. He could not use a bayonet and fought with his hands all night, thinking of nothing — no mind — stumbling through the dark, striking , kneeing, moving. When he fell, he would stand again. The next day, the communists retreated from the trenches and the fighting continued with guns... The next day's battle ended as night fell, but Nam kept fighting. Most of his thirty-one men were dead, and he had not slept for three nights. He had not eaten in how many days? He worked out that he had missed nine meals. He collapsed from exhaustion..."That day, during the retreat, Nam wandered to a spot where he had fought during the night before. He found many dead bodies and counted more than two dozen with no bullet or knife wounds. They were the ones he had hit during the night, the ones with broken faces and bones, but there was no time to dwell on these things. Seeing the Chinese divisions weakened , all the South Koreans, including the main line ten kilometres away, counter-attacked and chased the communists over Yongmun Mountain. Thanks to Nam and his battalion, one Korean division backed by an American division defeated three communist divisions. The battle would soon be in Korea's military records: a famous, horrific lesson in how to defend a mountain top against a 360-degree attack.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
If you're just in it for the exercise and life style, it's fine...if you believe you can protect yourself without actually hitting one an other, you're in for a rude awakening. And if you think your boxing days will just come back out of nowhere, you are sadly mistaken. Hitting a bag helps a bit, but I for one know that you lose your abilities of distancing, timing, avoiding, countering, etc...You have to get hit to learn how to take a strike, kick, etc...and you have to be able to give a hit as well. This only happens during live sparring. So in essence, it's up to you...What do you want to do? Thinking you can learn how to fight by punching & kicking the air is like learning how to swim on land.
super saiyan 4
Yellow Belt
Thank god you know what you're talking about
TSD_BrewNinja
White Belt
Where do I sign up!!
KungfukennyG
White Belt
Based on my own experience, if they don't allow you to compete in outside tournaments, you are in a bad school. Run away. I hope they didn't soak you on a contract.
Hyoho
2nd Black Belt
It's been around a very long time. My grand children did it. Good for kids and has probably replaced judo as many parents would take the kids out of that as they got injured falling.
