rmcrobertson said:
Just FYI, Christianity has a tradition of animal (see the Old Testament) and human ("for God so loved the world that he gave...") sacrifice. Moreover, Chirstians who take communion in any of its forms are engaged in an act of quasi-literal (if you're Catholic) or symbolic (if you're Protestant) cannibalism. And then too, any Christian who accepts the sacrament of baptism is engaged in a magical rite in which one's sins are washed away by water, with the aid of a shaman who intervenes with God and has a special power to make the rite efficacious.
It's largely a question of what we're used to. "Other," religions (and Christianity's entaglement with "other," religions is a whole 'nother story) appear heathen, for the same reason that Homer Simpson laughs at the news from abroad: "They're funny. They wear different clothes than us."
As for the question of why the "godless," among us find this National Prayer Day crap kinda annoying, well: a) it is disingenuous to claim that this does not mean Christian prayer; b) the people pushing this stuff never seem to be anybody else BUT fundamentalist Christians (notice that, say, the Catholic bishops and the national Council of Churches never seem to support this stuff any more); c) it's busybodyism, with a group of people who just cannot sleep at nights for fear somebody hasn't gotten The Word often enough wasting the time, energy and money of the rest of us, as though we weren't old enough to figure things out for themselves; d) it's largely a political issue anyway (like all this nonsense about the Pledge), pushed so right-wingers can turn to the rest of us any say, "See! We KNEW you were godless barbarians who don't deserve to live!!" e) it belongs to a distressing history of religious bigotry in this country; f) it should be none of the government's business to so much as hint to anybody who they should be praying to, or how, or when.
And by the way, kids, there are such things as Christians whose doctrine is that saying the name of God aloud, praying in public, and followwing government commands to pray, is deeply offensive.
Now let's all go read Robert A. Heinlein, "Revolt in 2100."
Ok that was babble if I ever heard it...LOL. HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!! Sorry, I just had to laugh at so many holes. Wow, do you ever miss alot. Maybe your looking at all this religion thing with the viewpoint of hatred. Your only looking at it from the outside and thus misinterpreting things BIG TIME.
First off, you are WRONG on the baptism thing and the communion thing. Baptism does only symbolize that your sins are washed away. It actually symbolizes that you publicly profess to put away your own sinful self, "washing" it away. It does not mean to wash your sins away. Only God can wash your sins away, forgiving them. And where are you getting your information? I say this because there is no such thing as a Shaman in Christian religion, just a Pastor who performs the act of Baptism. And there is no Magic to Baptism, just a public confession and symbolism of your Faith in Christ Jesus.
Christianity does not have to do with the sacrifice of animals or Humans. First off, the believers of the Old Testament sacrificed animals to God as a way of repentance, only through the blood. They were not called Christiansl; Christ was not around them, thus they were Jews. The term Christian only came up in the New Testament books.
Christ was the Final Sacrifice for our sins, the Ultimate Atonement. Christians never sacrificed human beings. That is called murder and also God would have us sacrifice a human who could possibly turn to Him and become a Christian. Christian tradition has never involved blood sacrifices. The Jews killed Christ, not the Christians. Yes, there is a big difference there, though you obviously think otherwise. It was a one time Human sacrifice, but God sent his son for us to die for our sins and thus open a gateway to Heaven for Gentiles and Jews alike. No longer was there need for blood sacrifices, though the Jews kind of missed the whole Messiah coming.
The Communion comment was totally off base. Protestant communion is not considered symbolic Cannibalism. Christ said "Do this in rememberance of me," so I don't think a God who is Loving would tell us to use symbolic Cannibalism in Church. I mean that might be a shot in the dark, but cannibalism is a bit, well, maybe this is another shot in the dark, a bit different than love. I mean, I'm probably totally wrong that cannibalism is love and I just don't understand the whole eating people thing. I guess you kill and eat humans to show love?
Hmmm, maybe I'm just so wrong. BAH!
Anyways, You make no sense. Your ideas for National Prayer day are messed up. You still have not provided a valid excuse for why NPD is a thing that bothers you and could make you cringe when it rolls around. The only thing that can apply there are political issues, those which you stated. We all have political issues, so get over them!!!! Remember, Church and State?
Your pointless banter is just like a one hundred fleas trying to ram a brick wall down. SQUASH!
Touche!:jedi1:
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P.S. When did the Government say that NPD was a Christian day?! I think you have totally missed every post in this thread other than your own! How can you argue your point when you haven't read anyone else's other than your own?