Momentum, snake walk , force flow

[Hendrik]

As in the proffesional field,
People such ad Joy and Dicox making claim and accusation, they better shows evidence of prio art. Otherwise, it is just baseless empty claim and false accusation on me.

I really encourage joy and Dicox to show the prio arts in YouTube. Let the public compare and see. Otherwise, there is no different then political smearing for covering up their lack

 

[Hendrik]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! I've never had a problem with Hendrik; it's just that he comes across as "I've got the ancient secret sauce and all the rest of you are low-life pond scum".
What he presents is BASIC wing chun knowledge....

What is wrong to report the facts as it is?

And what is this video got to do with all your accusation on me which I have not done?

 

[Transk53]

Lol.

Can you guys stay on topic on technical instead of going politics ?

You can accuse me everything , but what it is remain what it is, what you have or what you don't have remain as it is.

Make a utube and share , instead of turn this into a political smearing thread.

I don't think that is the case Hendrik, but I have seen some posts on another forum while Googling things like Danny T and others have cited. I am not qualified to debunk you or not, but please understand personal interpretation is just what it is. I don't think any offense is intended, otherwise you would get negative rep. I just think that discussion is what it is and just sometimes, content has to be disputed. We can all learn from that. It is just life and all that

 

[Danny T]

Lol.

Can you guys stay on topic on technical instead of going politics ?

You can accuse me everything , but what it is remain what it is, what you have or what you don't have remain as it is.

Make a utube and share , instead of turn this into a political smearing thread.

No politics sir. I agree with much of what you present. I so stated. I feel it is deceptive of you to present in a manner that no one else has what you have. That is all. I don't need youtube to state that. WC can be a awesome training system, when instructed and practiced well or it can be a poor system if instructed and practiced poorly. No one person has a secret wc. There is a lot of great wc in the world and there is a lot of poor wc as well. What I have seen of yours as yet is in both. Keep showing the fundamentals, no problem. Just know I probably have the same and there are many other who have it also.

 

[Vajramusti]

As in the proffesional field,
People such ad Joy and Dicox making claim and accusation, they better shows evidence of prio art. Otherwise, it is just baseless empty claim and false accusation on me.

I really encourage joy and Dicox to show the prio arts in YouTube. Let the public compare and see. Otherwise, there is no different then political smearing for covering up their lack

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No accusation Hendrik. Just commenting on your post. What is "prio arts"
and what is your claim--- based on your video?

 

[Hendrik]

What is the point of going off topic?

 

[LFJ]

I liked the part where he was like:

"He has to use the Snake Engine™, the, uh, Force Flow™, and the uh, uh, stepping, or, or, not stepping actually. It's the Snake Slide Walking™ to get to me".

Snake Slide Walking? Just a gimmicky name for a basic stepping pattern as Vajramusti stated.

And yet another forum is ruined with his ! I can't log on anywhere anymore.

 

[Vajramusti]

What is the point of going off topic?

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What specifically is the topic on which there can be a reasonable discussion rather than repeated spamming posts? What is prio arts?

 

[geezer]

This "Snake Theory" is nothing new, just renamed and repackaged TCMA theories common to Yong Chun, Taijiquan, Bagua Zhang etc.

...OK

Maybe what Hendrik is really doing is exposing the sad state of education within the world of Yong Chun. I see more and more converts flocking to him.... .

You must be joking. I don't know anybody with the patience to watch a typical of Hendrick lecture-style video, much less convert!

Honestly, there is nothing particularly wrong about anything shown in this particular video except that it seems to overcomplicate basic WC. Kinda boring actually...

 

[dlcox]

What is wrong to report the facts as it is?

And what is this video got to do with all your accusation on me which I have not done?

Nothing is wrong with reporting the facts. What is wrong with admitting them? All this gibberish you post is nothing more than basic understanding and mechanics of any MA, it is not even unique to Yong Chun. You try and pass it off that way by re-labeling everything. As has been stated many times, it's not the material that most have issues with, it's the manner in which it is presented. Speaking to many as if they are ignorant of their own art is quite egotistical IMO. Regardless of what you make think you are neither the voice or authority on all that is Yong Chun. If you want to re-invent Yong Chun and claim what you possess as "Original" and "Ancestral" and that it applies to all lineages, by all means you have the right, it is a free country. Just don't expect others who know better to forsake what they have and convert to your method, simply because you have forsaken the heritage handed down to you.

 

[dlcox]

...OK



You must be joking. I don't know anybody with the patience to watch a typical of Hendrick lecture-style video, much less convert!

Honestly, there is nothing particularly wrong about anything shown in this particular video except that it seems to overcomplicate basic WC. Kinda boring actually...

Not joking. He and his ilk are gaining new supporters every month. Their reach is far and wide. It goes well beyond the few supporters on the forums, entire organizations support his "Theories" worldwide. This doesn't make him legit, IMO it simply exposes the lack of knowledge many so called instructors and practitioners possess regarding the art. All these posts and youtube videos are nothing more than propaganda used to attract new supporters. People that simply want to be a part of something they believe could possibly be the "Original Essence" of the art of Yong Chun. Hendrik's sole purpose for this is to gain notoriety as a pioneer in the art, many of his unscrupulous supporters use this "Snake" theory and origins as a marketing ploy to attract new students. It's taken him a long time but it is still gaining support, simply because many allow him to continue to mock their tradition and won't confront him.

 

[Danny T]

Hendrik, what is the major difference in snake slide walk and the basic step/slide footwork? Why the term snake slide vs what all other wc systems call the stepping?
When you perform this basic movement what are you doing with your center of gravity and what is the final position of your hip and weight distribution? Just a discussion please, not a long drawn out video.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

IMO, MA is like physics. 1st you have theory in the classroom, you then test it in the lab. From your testing, you can prove whether your theory is correct or need further modification.

Would like to hear some "testing" result for "snake walk" theory.

 

[Transk53]

So if I have surmised correctly, tho OP's content is spurious to say the least. Obviously I am uneducated here, should I be taking any notice without a pinch of salt. This thread is a tad confusing.

 

[Kwan Sau]

So if I have surmised correctly, tho OP's content is spurious to say the least. Obviously I am uneducated here, should I be taking any notice without a pinch of salt. This thread is a tad confusing.

You should do your research, watch his videos, etc in order to form your own opinion. They rest of us (some of us) have "been there, done that" and have formed our opinions already. Most of us are still waiting for him to present his creation/invention/ancient secret sauce with a non-compliant, resisting opponent...
The odd piece is, he recently stated that with such a non-compliant, resisting opponent situation...his stuff (worms crawling, etc) WOULD BE INEFFECTIVE AND WOULD NOT WORK.
So, I understand your last comment about this being a 'tad confusing'.

 

[zuti car]

Resisting opponent will let someone go behind his back? In theory this may look efficient , in realty there is no way this can happened . One other thing , stepping is wrong , hendrik and his partner do not know how to step correctly , the movement starts with their feet and the leading part of the body through the movement is a foot which go first and rest of body is following instead of the movement which would start in the hips and where foot would be actually pushed forward without loosing the balance in the moment of moving .
BTW . Hendrik How about that museum address ? I asked that other guy Jim , but he also left me without the answer