And a "degree of control" is because you don't want to get hit. You SHOULD be getting hit hard in sparring. No one cares about your "control" in a self defense situation.
No, degree of control is hitting others. I will agree there is a different type of control, in a confrontation, where one avoids contact, and if they can receive it.
You're still here? Go do some hard contact with someone who can actually strike and get back to us. No idea where you're located but if you're local to me, my sparring session is Friday night. I have some thirteen year olds you can start with.
Unfortunately as a student I do not get to travel often. However, if you are ever in the D.C. area, you are welcome to join us for practice. If you would like to bring your 13 year olds, they are welcome to. But understand I wouldn't be making contact with them what soever in the sense of contact sparring.
Drop all the crap and movie-inspired BS, like flipping out when your leg is trapped, or being unsweepable because of flexibility. Stop thinking how good you are, and go back to basics. Learn how to really, effectively land a simple punch combination.
Not making contact does not mean the strikes would not have landed. When one could get past each other's defenses, the strike would have done business.
I can't assess most of your technique in the video for the simple reason that the effects make it unwatchable. I can mute the music, but the repeats and effects just make it impossible to watch. You say you made it for friends to watch; I guess it was a "look at how bad-*** we are" thing... Hell, when I was in my teens, if we'd had easily available video, I probably would've done the same damn thing. Maybe even with the silly effects. I got lucky, trained with some very good people, and lived through being a cocky kid. You likely will too. I hope you and your friends had fun with it.
The crowd I am oriented with are a very creative group. My sister, for example, is studying at Templeton and major in film editing. She has a film which will be at this year's sundance. So understand this video was less about going 'Wheee! Were awesome!' and moreso to show others who have not trained with us what we look like doing our techniques, and having fun. I had hoped to share that with people on this board, as others had enjoyed it in person.
This is just one example of a quote that indicates you don't have experience in sparring against people who really know what they're doing. Effective leg grabs do not require both hands to secure the leg. If the majority of your sparring partners are grabbing the ankle with both hands when they catch your leg, then they don't know what they're doing.
As you can see in the video section I used as an example, Alec has obtained the grab with one arm. There are different ways to grab and hold a quick, and it can differ depending on the kick. If a muai thai person throws a roundhouse, if you one arm, kiss it good-bye. Against a front kick, one arm will do. Against a karate round-kick, as well. But there are some kicks which are ungrabable. A tornado kick using a roundhouse would be an example.
There are times when I have allowed people to grab my leg specifically so I could force them to drop their hands. Usually I offer them choice leverage... the ankle and back of the shin. Even when one grabs my leg, I am still kicked. It is not hard to generate the force to continuously kick if the person retains a grip, holding your leg up for you. Different situations, different strategies, different circumstances. I hope you'll understand however that on the street I wouldn't leave my leg out long enough for them to get it. That would just be bloody crazy.
MT the site, can at times be like a full contact experience, read well and learn. Much good advice, maybe not the kind you were looking for, but honest and to the point............
I concur. There has been much valuable input.
Absolutely correct. I can only think of one circumstance where I got an opponent by the ankle with both hands and dumped him. The rest were all hooks under the calf, or I jammed the kick and lifted the thigh. And they were one-handed, usually done with the crook of my own arm.
If you look in the video at the two different instances where Alec grabbed my leg, he does so in exactly this fashion at 4:55 to a round kick, at 1:00, there is a half grab which stopped an arrow-kick to his throat. In the former instance, all that was needed was a simple pump front-kick, which allowed me to give a kick to his inner-thigh, and step down, retaining where I was. Though he forced me to give ground, both of us had to retreat at the end of that exchange. In the 1:00 exchange, his grab of the arrow kick was nullified by executing a pump round-kick, as he attempted to grab. The end result was my leg, within guard now, free, and you can see the tiny twitch to his groin. Had I moved anymore I would have actually sack-tapped him... which aint cool.
Regardless; there are some people with the thigh strength that even when you grab them, they'll keep on kicking, and it will either break free, or impact the person attempting to grab. There are some fighters grabbing the fighter will only benefit them.
In both instances where he attempted to grab, I not only broke free, but was able to strike him in a way which would have debilitated on the street. One a kick to the groin, the other the to the inner thigh, which would have broken it. It is not because Alec is fail at grabbing, it's because my goal this year is to be able to do a rotation of 100 kicks on each leg, without having to drop to either, and not repeat any same kick twice in a row. I practice for this everyday, doing as many kicks as I can in this fashion, and am now up to 30. I am not saying I'm amazing, merely that some people have the thigh strength, and control, that grabbing their leg will be inopportune. No matter how hard you grip it, their legs might actually be strong enough to just shake it off.
When someone grabs your leg, there are a LOT of ways to break the grip. The trick is to have a fast enough reaction, and know your choices, and choose the correct one. Our exchanges in the video are often happening at speeds of a tenth of a second, and we can go faster. There are multiple instances where in the span of .3 seconds, I have thrown 3 strikes, and he has reacted to each respectively, immediately. This is slow for us, like I said, half speed. But if we were to go full, with aggression, it would look much different. Our exchanges would be a lot shorter, and there'd both be one.
Now sweeping on the other hand without grabbing it... There are some awesome leg sweeps in dog style where I could throw a roundkick all I want, the dog practitioner will have already been on the ground sweeping me as my kick graced the air he had just been in.