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Originally posted by ace
I want a bucket with blue cheese!
Originally posted by PAUL
O.K.....here is my problem with martial arts in general. It is hard to keep up the standard when you have people promoting themselves more rapidly then what there skill shows, and then throwing it out there in the form of "a tape series," or something of the kind. The general public, hell even "martial artists" are too often unable to recognize what is quality and what isn't. It is very fusterating; there is no imperical way to prove ones skill anymore. It isn't until the unqualified get on the floor next to the qualified that people will be able to truely judge. When has Delenay, or McManus ever decided to get on the floor next to someone in Modern Arnis who might be more qualified then they? They won't do it because they don't want to be shown up.
We'll I just hope that people who decide to buy their tapes, or go to their seminars will at least make the effort to see other Modern Arnis players out there to make the comparison.
Remember, Ashada Kim and Count Dantes were able to make some dough selling merchandise, so I'm sure McManus and Delenay will do the same selling there product. This doesn't make any of them qualified, however.
But, hey, some people liked to be lied to, and like to live in fantasy land. Too many "martial artists" are lost in fantasy. Well, there's nothing any of us can do about that. Also remember this saying: You can be the master of your own universe if you never leave your backyard.
I wish Mr. Delenay and Mrs. McManus on their quest for recognition as masters of the modern arnis unicerse.
Originally posted by Red Blade
Does EVERY modern arnis post have to turn into an ad for the symposium?
:cuss:
Originally posted by norshadow1
Nope, it doesn't, however since a lot of thought and effort are going into this premier event, it ought to be mentioned on a regular basis. Since people are bitching and moaning about the McManus promotion and the symposium was pulled together to deal with some of these grand and bogus types of claims, the symposium ought to have the support of everyone who is opposed to what the McManus promotion stands for; I for one believe that her promotion from 2nd to 5th stinks to high heaven, but is she going to show up at the symposium? Not on your life!
I have read through a number of posts by Dr. Barber and I have seen his very carefully crafted observations and recountings of Modern Arnis history go unanswered. Why?
I am looking forward to seing some of you folks at the Symposium because I want to see if your understanding of Modern Arnis matches your ability to post on this forum. Like Richard, I have attended seminars and camps with PG Bolden, Datu Hartman and Dr. Barber. But I also attended events with Master Bram Frank, Master Richard Roy and Guro D. Muhammad. All of these men were very good to excellent. I also have seen and worked with Ms. McManus and Mr. Delaney. They have made a wise decision by declining to accept the invitations to participante in the Symposium.
Does every Modern Arnis post have to refer to the Symposium? No! But this is the going to be the seminal event of 2003 and I am aware of several FMA people from outside of Mdern Arnis who will be there. This program is going to bigger and more important than most of you realize right now.
Lamont
Originally posted by Emptyglass
Hi Rich:
Desperate? I don't think so. Enthusiastic, most definitely. I find it very exciting that we will have a great assembly of really top-notch instructors there. Additionally, many of the high-profile (ie: those who do a lot of magazine advertisements) Modern Arnis instructors and their associates have made it clear that they don't intend to attend the event.
This being said, some people who are sitting on the fence about coming to the event and who may not have been exposed to the instructors who are coming may think that it's not worth coming to. Therefore, letting folks know that the event will be exciting and interesting and worthwhile is in the best interest of everyone who is going (like me!) as I would like to see the greatest representation of different Arnisadors there as possible.
I think lots of people talked a good game about coming to the event and now that the time has come to throw your cash in the pot, they might be reconsidering hasty words. I hope this isn't true. Having worked with Punong-Guro Tom Bolden in the past, a three-day intensive camp of
Panci-Panci Escrima/CHA-3 Kenpo would be worth the cost of admission to me. Add in Guro Bram Frank (and his excellent Gunting Knife), Rocky Paswik and his Balintawak skills and the inimitable (I think that's a word) Dr. Barber himself and you've got a bargain for $195.00. And you've got 9 other high-ranking instructors as well. Great, merciful crap! That's alot of Arnis.
It will probably be worth it for the after-training beer sessions alone. Now this isn't an ad, and I'm not demonstrating at the event, but I am excited about going to it. It's going to be fun, it's going to be a chance to learn something new and for me it will be a chance to renew some old contacts and friendships and form some new ones in the world of the Filipino Martial Arts.
I've been around long enough in the art to know that if you're a good person/student and have contacts who are good people, it opens doors for you that sometimes would remain closed forever. This Symposium is a chance to make some of those connections in my opinion.
Thanks,
Richard Curren
Originally posted by Rich Parsons
Yes I realize it will be important, and plan on being there. As I said so last summer. I would like to meet new people at this event. Yet it is sad that some of those I would liked to have seen or worked with are not going to be there now.
The problem that I see is that if it appears that no one is going and it is desperate advertising this will make even more people think about not going. The counter effect we are looking for. If it is once in a while and an update is made, or just a simple reminder, then this to me seems to be good. Maybe Red Blade and others were jsut concerned about a back lash.
Personally, I think Dr B is trying his best to makes things work. And I thank him for that. Yet, if every thread and or post is nothing more about how great this is going to be, it could be misleading.
No disrespect to anyone, yet I can see both sides and their concerns.
:asian:
Originally posted by PAUL
Can someone please explain this symposium thing to me one more time? What exactly is supposed to go on again?
Originally posted by PAUL
Can someone please explain this symposium thing to me one more time? What exactly is supposed to go on again?