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[dvcochran]

I'm not saying this virus isn't an issue; but when the organization that people and businesses take their cues from puts out crap like this...it just confirms what the majority of us have known for a while. Especially when MSM and social media platforms are quick to remove and / or ban anyone except their "experts" on the evil virus statistics.

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Yep, 94% rate of error in reporting C-19 deaths. Straight from the CDC. Not a shock but then again shocking that they finally admitted there has been an enormous amount of mixing in the stats.
I am expecting another shoe to drop on this one.

 

[Steve]

You guys... you're getting your information either directly or indirectly from whackadoo conspiracy theory sites.

Why COVID-19 isn’t the only listed cause of most virus deaths | king5.com

Twitter took down one tweet on Sunday, which President Donald Trump had retweeted earlier in the day, that reportedly claimed the CDC had "quietly" updated its numbers "to admit that only 6%" of people listed as coronavirus deaths "actually died from Covid."

The tweet was made by an account named Mel Q. The Q stands for QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, according to Forbes. Even though the tweet was removed, throughout Sunday, "only 6%" was trending on the social media platform. Others were tweeting similar false information.

Emphasis added by me to highlight how you guys are being spoonfed information from far right wing conspiracy sites.

We've known from the beginning that most of the folks who are dying or are at highest risk of death are people with additional health considerations. If anything, we should be alarmed that thousands of people with zero health indicators of high risk are dying. That should put to rest the allegations that only old and sick people are at risk.

 

[dvcochran]

You guys... you're getting your information either directly or indirectly from whackadoo conspiracy theory sites.

Why COVID-19 isn’t the only listed cause of most virus deaths | king5.com

Emphasis added by me to highlight how you guys are being spoonfed information from far right wing conspiracy sites.

We've known from the beginning that most of the folks who are dying or are at highest risk of death are people with additional health considerations. If anything, we should be alarmed that thousands of people with zero health indicators of high risk are dying. That should put to rest the allegations that only old and sick people are at risk.

CNN, CNBC, etc..., the CDC and all other news feeds have reported this.
Not sure what whackadoo outlet you are following but you need to pull your head out of the sand. It is the easiest information out there to understand.

 

[dvcochran]

You guys... you're getting your information either directly or indirectly from whackadoo conspiracy theory sites.

Why COVID-19 isn’t the only listed cause of most virus deaths | king5.com

Emphasis added by me to highlight how you guys are being spoonfed information from far right wing conspiracy sites.

We've known from the beginning that most of the folks who are dying or are at highest risk of death are people with additional health considerations. If anything, we should be alarmed that thousands of people with zero health indicators of high risk are dying. That should put to rest the allegations that only old and sick people are at risk.

Funny, actually hilarious. I checked your link. No surprise it is a local news station reporting limited, biased, and dated information. What a bunch of leftist misinformation The west/northwest chooses to lock themselves in a box and create their own false reality. Your opinion is meaningless and not shocking at all.

 

[Steve]

CNN, CNBC, etc..., the CDC and all other news feeds have reported this.
Not sure what whackadoo outlet you are following but you need to pull your head out of the sand. It is the easiest information out there to understand.

The information about high risk individuals has been common knowledge since the very beginning of the pandemic. Literally nothing new.

The specific talking points you're regurgitating without any critical thought are the conspiracy du jour.

Funny, actually hilarious. I checked your link. No surprise it is a local news station reporting limited, biased, and dated information. What a bunch of leftist misinformation The west/northwest chooses to lock themselves in a box and create their own false reality. Your opinion is meaningless and not shocking at all.

Oh no. Now you don't trust local news outlets, either? Here you go. Links below to some news feeds, including the ones you allege to have seen this "news" on. Good lord.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article245382320.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/
https://www.vox.com/2020/9/1/21410352/cdc-6-percent-covid-19-deaths-comorbidities
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/poli...rus-deaths-false-claim-qanon-trump/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fau...-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

 

[Steve]

Duplicate post

 

[Steve]

Another duplicate post.

 

[Steve]

Okay. The site is trolling me at this point.

 

[Steve]

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[Steve]

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[dvcochran]

The information about high risk individuals has been common knowledge since the very beginning of the pandemic. Literally nothing new.

The specific talking points you're regurgitating without any critical thought are the conspiracy du jour.

Links below to some news feeds, including the ones you allege to have seen this "news" on. Good lord.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article245382320.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/
https://www.vox.com/2020/9/1/21410352/cdc-6-percent-covid-19-deaths-comorbidities
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/poli...rus-deaths-false-claim-qanon-trump/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fau...-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

Okay I guess? You are correct; The information about high risk people is common knowledge. How/why would that be any different for say the cold or flu?
What is 'new' information (not really) is the way death has been disseminated. In a nutshell, anyone who was diagnosed with C-19 and died, regardless of pre-existing conditions or actual COD such as heart attack, cancer, hell even an auto accident, have been identified as a C-19 death. Now explain how that is accurate reporting?
'Good lord'. Just take the time to research the facts. Why don't you go straight to the source instead of going half way around the world with indirect sources? But if it feels good, knock yourself out. Just know that misinformation will be debunked.

 

[dvcochran]

The information about high risk individuals has been common knowledge since the very beginning of the pandemic. Literally nothing new.

The specific talking points you're regurgitating without any critical thought are the conspiracy du jour.

Links below to some news feeds, including the ones you allege to have seen this "news" on. Good lord.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article245382320.html
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/
https://www.vox.com/2020/9/1/21410352/cdc-6-percent-covid-19-deaths-comorbidities
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/poli...rus-deaths-false-claim-qanon-trump/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/fau...-toll-there-are-180000-plus-deaths-in-us.html

Okay I guess? You are correct; The information about high risk people is common knowledge. How/why would that be any different for say the cold or flu?
What is 'new' information (not really) is the way death has been disseminated. In a nutshell, anyone who was diagnosed with C-19 and died, regardless of pre-existing conditions or actual COD such as heart attack, cancer, hell even an auto accident, have been identified as a C-19 death. Now explain how that is accurate reporting?
'Good lord'. Just take the time to research the facts. Why don't you go straight to the source instead of going half way around the world with indirect sources? But if it feels good, knock yourself out. Just know that misinformation will be debunked.
We are having a hell of a storm right now so I hope this goes out.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Okay. The site is trolling me at this point.

This happened to you in another thread - I cleaned up 5 duplicates in one of the threads. Apparently, the site thinks you're being too quiet.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Okay I guess? You are correct; The information about high risk people is common knowledge. How/why would that be any different for say the cold or flu?
What is 'new' information (not really) is the way death has been disseminated. In a nutshell, anyone who was diagnosed with C-19 and died, regardless of pre-existing conditions or actual COD such as heart attack, cancer, hell even an auto accident, have been identified as a C-19 death. Now explain how that is accurate reporting?
'Good lord'. Just take the time to research the facts. Why don't you go straight to the source instead of going half way around the world with indirect sources? But if it feels good, knock yourself out. Just know that misinformation will be debunked.

There's a doctor who explains this well. On a death certificate, there's the cause of death and the things that kill someone. A car crash is never the thing that they die from - it's internal hemmorhage, heart failure, etc. Same goes with COVID. If they die from something that would not have killed them at that time without COVID, then COVID is ruled to be the cause of death. So if someone with asthma dies because COVID makes their asthma deadly, COVID is the cause of that death. This is the same process as is used in cancer deaths (cancer is never the thing that finally kills them - it's some failure caused by the cancer), so is nothing unusual.

I'd be more than a little surprised if there were incidents of accidental death (like car accidents) being labeld COVID. I'd have to see actual evidence to believe that's happening.

 

[Steve]

This happened to you in another thread - I cleaned up 5 duplicates in one of the threads. Apparently, the site thinks you're being too quiet.

Thank you for cleaning up the mess.

 

[Steve]

Okay I guess? You are correct; The information about high risk people is common knowledge. How/why would that be any different for say the cold or flu?
What is 'new' information (not really) is the way death has been disseminated. In a nutshell, anyone who was diagnosed with C-19 and died, regardless of pre-existing conditions or actual COD such as heart attack, cancer, hell even an auto accident, have been identified as a C-19 death. Now explain how that is accurate reporting?
'Good lord'. Just take the time to research the facts. Why don't you go straight to the source instead of going half way around the world with indirect sources? But if it feels good, knock yourself out. Just know that misinformation will be debunked.
We are having a hell of a storm right now so I hope this goes out.

You literally lied about seeing your propaganda on CNN and CNBC to attempt to legitimize the misinformation. This is as much about your credibility and integrity as anything else, at this point.

 

[Callen]

Oh my, perhaps we should save the COVID politics for another forum... Wing Chun related stuff only yeah?

 

[Poppity]

Well, here I was getting all excited about a lot of activity... Well that's disappointing.

I appreciate that maybe your community and family may have not seen covid deaths yet, so it all feels like a hoax or whatever. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to their individual beliefs.

My dad, who was not a great guy, died from covid, he was 68 and his co-morbidity was a minor heart attack in his 40s. Two neighbours down our road have died and they were admittedly elderly.

Can people just give a bit of a think that when propounding their political view, some people may have lost family members and people they know.

Other than that I don't care about your individual view on covid, whatever it is, your entitled to it but please put it somewhere else.

There is no reason to go all dumb leftists or sheeple rightists.... A fellow dad from the USA over here for work took his kid to the same school as mine and I got to know him.

He was a Trump supporting,Anti vaxxer, Roman catholic with
Anti abortion views... This is the opposite to my stance on all of those issues. But you know what he was an alright guy, we got to know each other and had a good laugh and enjoyed hanging out before he moved back.

You don't have to judge a person solely on their political view, they are entitled to it.

 

[dvcochran]

You literally lied about seeing your propaganda on CNN and CNBC to attempt to legitimize the misinformation. This is as much about your credibility and integrity as anything else, at this point.

My gosh. You are willing to say anything. I did not lie and it is an offense that you would make that claim. It is not propaganda any more than the crap you are spinning.
As far as credibility and integrity, I fully agree. It is far past the point we start seeing some from All our media sources. I am sick and tired of opinion pieces with no backing.

 

[Steve]

You don't have to judge a person solely on their political view, they are entitled to it.

In normal times, I agree completely, but 2020 is anything but normal. I'll move this over to another thread.