Not even 20 minutes from civilization. Maybe 7 to the nearest interstate exit and the usual kind of civilization that grows around them near cities.Maybe it's better if I explain this, @gpseymour, I'm a better writer.
You know WHY there is no cable where we live? Because the cable companies looked at the area and decided it was too expensive to drag the cable this far up the mountain. And the dish is dicey - we live between two mountain ridges, and that makes lining up the satellite signal... entertaining.
The most laughable thing about this is - we are not that far from civilization. 20 minutes. Which makes it very disorienting for people coming to visit us. One moment they are in the 21st century, and a moment later... there is nothing around them but mountains, trees, with an occasional horse and cow thrown into the mix.
And the nearest neighborhood with cable is about 3/4 of a mile away by road.