Kickboxing 5 months

[Goldleaf]

Hi,

I did complete my 5 months Journey to Kickboxing. Started with 4 times a week and i do like it and doing now 4/5 times a week since last week.

Once a week technique/drills training and 3-4 times a week heavy bag training. Each sessions last 45-50 minutes. We train turn by turn with partner and in between we do push ups and other exercises and close with heavy bag again. So effective i am training 22-25 minutes

I am 40 years and 180cm and now 87kg. But when i started i was 83kg.

I noticed that i am not thicker and fit same jeans so more muscle mass. Although i barely see anything (i am always negative about results).

My question is will i get an flat belly eventually with this training regime and how long will it take?? I do eat very clean so rice/chicken/milk/yoghurt/nuts/fruit/vegetables

 

[HighKick]

Hi,

I did complete my 5 months Journey to Kickboxing. Started with 4 times a week and i do like it and doing now 4/5 times a week since last week.

Once a week technique/drills training and 3-4 times a week heavy bag training. Each sessions last 45-50 minutes. We train turn by turn with partner and in between we do push ups and other exercises and close with heavy bag again. So effective i am training 22-25 minutes

I am 40 years and 180cm and now 87kg. But when i started i was 83kg.

I noticed that i am not thicker and fit same jeans so more muscle mass. Although i barely see anything (i am always negative about results).

My question is will i get an flat belly eventually with this training regime and how long will it take?? I do eat very clean so rice/chicken/milk/yoghurt/nuts/fruit/vegetables

Fully depends on your diet and genetics.

 

[Goldleaf]

Hi, my genetics is okay i think. I don't know how to check.

But i know that i can easy gain or loose weight if i want to. And my diet is very clean.

But can i give me a more better answer. With Genetics as answer one can answer all the questions with it

 

[HighKick]

Hi, my genetics is okay i think. I don't know how to check.

But i know that i can easy gain or loose weight if i want to. And my diet is very clean.

But can i give me a more better answer. With Genetics as answer one can answer all the questions with it

Does obesity or general flabbyness run in your family? That does Not mean weakness. The strongest people I know do not have a beach body.

 

[Goldleaf]

On my fathers side NO
On my mothers side her sisters yes
But brothers not

 

[Goldleaf]

I never had even not sporting a soft and fatty body.
My body is relative hard and seems that there is meat rather then fat.

Also i noticed when doing push ups people who train there for 1 year can't do more then few good push ups with few reps while i do now 30 the first 20 were very quick added

 

[jks9199]

Define a "flat belly."

6-pack abs are fully the result of very low body fat percentage. That is 90% the result of diet. A very strict diet.

But a functionally "flat belly" -- meaning that you're not carrying excess fat -- is entirely doable. It's largely a matter of diet, but you can slack off a little more.

As others have said, there's also a factor of genetics, both in how your abs are structured and in how easily you gain or lose that fat... But in the end, it's largely about diet.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

From what you've said-are you actually not looking to be in good shape, or dp you just not think so/expecting a different shape than your body type? If you've got no fat to burn you're not going to see a whole lot in that department, if you're looking to add muscle youll have to do more than just pushups and cardio. And if you're at the spot where you're in good shape but trying to get a 6pack or look celeb skinny, you need to start eating less or dehydrating yourself (not recommended).

 

[Buka]

Looks are often deceiving.

 

[drop bear]

Calorie deficit.

 

[Goldleaf]

Hi thanks all and Monkey,

But doing 4-5 times a week technique drills and heavy bag training. I was thinking that i am working on all the muscles and with proper clean doet i will get toned body?? I don't muscles like fitness but flat belly and toned look??? Did j waste 5 months off my time? What would you/other recommend?

 

[Leviathan]

Hi thanks all and Monkey,

But doing 4-5 times a week technique drills and heavy bag training. I was thinking that i am working on all the muscles and with proper clean doet i will get toned body?? I don't muscles like fitness but flat belly and toned look??? Did j waste 5 months off my time? What would you/other recommend?

Hi Goldleaf,

With a clean diet and regular exercise you should definitely be able to get a fit body, meaning a flat belly (not talking about a 6-pack). I must stress though that people have very different understandings of “clean” diet: low fat, low calories, low carbs, carnivore, vegan… To me it means most of all unprocessed food, i.e. pretty much what you describe, though I have absolutely no problem with natural fats.

It is absolutely possible to build up some muscle, especially in the beginning with all kinds of drills (push ups, sit ups etc).

I must say weight control is 90% diet, as someone already mentioned. So train for fun, for your health but if your main goal is weight loss, then training plays a minor role. If you had fun and feel healthier now, then those 5 months were no waste of time. But if the sole goal was to shed a few pounds, then your training was fairly pointless. It’s up to you. How do you see it?

 

[Goldleaf]

Thanks!

I started to learn to throw a punch back or to throw a punch when i am in situation when fight starts. Because i am afraid to fight even with an skinny guy when it happens. Maybe because of my ptsd and second reason is for mental health.

And then i thought let me ask if u get an toned body because that is what i see with kickboxers.

By the way am i on good path? 3/4 times turn by turn heavy bag training of 50 minutes and then cool off in between we do 5-10 minutes push ups/mountain climbing... And different exercises for corr/abs

And once a week technique drills with trainingspartner?

Someone opinion?

 

[MuayJitsu]

Thanks!

I started to learn to throw a punch back or to throw a punch when i am in situation when fight starts. Because i am afraid to fight even with an skinny guy when it happens. Maybe because of my ptsd and second reason is for mental health.

And then i thought let me ask if u get an toned body because that is what i see with kickboxers.

By the way am i on good path? 3/4 times turn by turn heavy bag training of 50 minutes and then cool off in between we do 5-10 minutes push ups/mountain climbing... And different exercises for corr/abs

And once a week technique drills with trainingspartner?

Someone opinion?

Don’t use what you see if fighters in the ring as a goal. Most fighters who get in the ring have starved and depleted themselves to make weight for their fight and most times overtrained themselves so the physique you see on fight night is not their walk around body type that they are in every day life. After the weigh in and the fight they will start to eat and drink normally again and won’t be in that shape. Yes of course you’ll get in better shape through martial art training but it all depends on the person some people struggle to gain muscle more than someone else or someone may naturally be more stocky, the better thing is to aim to be healthy rather than what you look like in the mirror

 

[Leviathan]

Thanks!

I started to learn to throw a punch back or to throw a punch when i am in situation when fight starts. Because i am afraid to fight even with an skinny guy when it happens. Maybe because of my ptsd and second reason is for mental health.

And then i thought let me ask if u get an toned body because that is what i see with kickboxers.

By the way am i on good path? 3/4 times turn by turn heavy bag training of 50 minutes and then cool off in between we do 5-10 minutes push ups/mountain climbing... And different exercises for corr/abs

And once a week technique drills with trainingspartner?

Someone opinion?

50 minutes of heavy bag training? Seems a lot to me. And technique only once a week? Seems little to me.

At my kickboxing club we do technique drills with a partner every session. Bag training (10 minutes or so) is usually at the end for conditioning.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

50 minutes of heavy bag training? Seems a lot to me. And technique only once a week? Seems little to me.

At my kickboxing club we do technique drills with a partner every session. Bag training (10 minutes or so) is usually at the end for conditioning.

Sounds pretty normal for a cardio kickboxing class, that's trying to be slightly more practical than most.

 

[HighKick]

50 minutes of heavy bag training? Seems a lot to me. And technique only once a week? Seems little to me.

At my kickboxing club we do technique drills with a partner every session. Bag training (10 minutes or so) is usually at the end for conditioning.

Agree. Those hands and wrist are going to be hell when he gets older.

 

[Goldleaf]

Agree. Those hands and wrist are going to be hell when he gets older.

What do u mean? Will they get solid or do u mean i will face pain and weaknesses because it is bad for it?

 

[HighKick]

What do u mean? Will they get solid or do u mean i will face pain and weaknesses because it is bad for it?

If the bag work is done wrong or too often, arthritis in the wrist and finger joints is very common.

 

[drop bear]

Don’t use what you see if fighters in the ring as a goal. Most fighters who get in the ring have starved and depleted themselves to make weight for their fight and most times overtrained themselves so the physique you see on fight night is not their walk around body type that they are in every day life. After the weigh in and the fight they will start to eat and drink normally again and won’t be in that shape. Yes of course you’ll get in better shape through martial art training but it all depends on the person some people struggle to gain muscle more than someone else or someone may naturally be more stocky, the better thing is to aim to be healthy rather than what you look like in the mirror

We have guys at our gym who are walking around with 6 packs.

One of them is 40.

They put the effort in. But it is doable.