Kenpo/Kempo Roll Call

[Goldendragon7]

According to everyone that I've asked so far (and that's a long list of people) Charles Beeder was, infact, Ed Parker's first black belt. I'm inclined to accept their word as the truth. After examining the statements that people have made I'm left wondering who would profit more from being known as Ed Parker's first black belt (a dead guy, or someone who is still in the business)?

Worth looking at.......

 

[Zoran]

Why does James Ibrao call himself Ed Parker's first Black Belt? Is there some kind of misunderstanding here or is it intentional misinformation on Mr. Ibrao's part? Here it is on his website: KenpoKarate.com (Sentence three under "Hard Hitting Kenpo").

Hey Billy,

This is an odd one. I asked John McSweeney about this as he was there from 1959-1962. He said Ibrao was his first black belt and that is what they were always told back then by Ed Parker. It seems every one that was there before 1960 says the same. Later the story changes and Parker told many that Beeder was the first, mostly to the guys after 1965 or so. So I would not say the Ibrao is giving misinformation. I truly believe this is what he was told.

To me this suggests that his status had changed somehow later.

 

[nahkohewalker]

Epak under Mr. Lee Wedlake

 

[kempo108]

Shaolin Kempo - under Thomas Ingargiola in NY

 

[ppko]

Ryukyu Kempo

 

[5 hand swords]

Hey Billy,

This is an odd one. I asked John McSweeney about this as he was there from 1959-1962. He said Ibrao was his first black belt and that is what they were always told back then by Ed Parker. It seems every one that was there before 1960 says the same. Later the story changes and Parker told many that Beeder was the first, mostly to the guys after 1965 or so. So I would not say the Ibrao is giving misinformation. I truly believe this is what he was told.

To me this suggests that his status had changed somehow later.

Well I learned from one of Ed's first black belts .

 

[Zoran]

Well I learned from one of Ed's first black belts .

Sorry 5 swords, not sure what you mean here.

Learned what? That Ibrao was or wasn't?

From who?

 

[5 hand swords]

Sorry 5 swords, not sure what you mean here.

Learned what? That Ibrao was or wasn't?

From who?

That Ibrao was or wasn't?
I have no input here as this was far far above me .

just smileing

 

[kensen83]

studied under master david boise of the villari style of shaolin kempo for 12 years, in upstate new york, now i have moved to albany and have been dabling in many other forms of martial arts every sence then including, muay thai, kendo , and jeet kung do.

 

[scfgabe]

I am just beginning to study American Kenpo under Paul Mill's AKKI trainers.

 

[uglydawg]

epak at the Hillboro American Family Karate studio

 

[Simon Curran]

I really don't remember whether I have already responded or not, but EPAK for me anyway...

 

[Colin_Linz]

I do Shorinji Kempo.

 

[shane23ss]

Try TKD or TSD.:asian:

Might be a theme. What do you think J?

 

[young_braveheart]

Chow/Chun System.

 

[Sam]

Tracy Kenpo

 

[asangria]

Tai Kenpo, Cypress - CA

 

[Seabrook]

Ed Parker's Kenpo Karate System.

 

[Kenpoist]

Kenpo Taijutsu = Parker Kenpo w/ some TRA-CO - also added some Kuk Sool Won (Joint Locks) - Judo throws and after Black will be taught some Budo Taijutsu (Ninpo).

 

[LexTalinis]

Kara-Ho, but I have studied under IKCA for 5 years as well.