RichK said:
Flying Crane, my typed words are worse than my spoken words so I am sure you did not understand...LOL. In the KSP system there are now 5 techs per belt level. Originally 32 per that stopped at, I think, Green and then 24 per which I learned which stopped at 2nd Brown and then 16 per which stops at 1st Black. What I mean by stopped is that is where the base technique ends and the extensions to the base techniques pick up. 154 base plus 96 extensions. All three curriculums are teaching the same thing but just changing the length of material. The techniques were created in a way that built upon body mechanics and gave the mind different "what-if" scenarios. Also the universal pattern that Mr Parker created was designed to be used as a teaching method broken down by different attacks. Go ahead Doc correct me on that, I never claimed to be the smartest cookie in the jar. I had two students that picked up on the new curriculum and were wizzing through it. One was a male adult, BB in TKD and the other a female adult with no previous experience. I was always coming up with filler material because I could tell they were getting bored with the new curriculum. And BTW my "filler" material is not just used to fill, I use it to expound upon the mind. A couple other students I cringed and watched as they were "given" belts because they could do the motion but had no clue as to why. If students get bored because they are only learning a couple of "moves" they are going to go elsewhere. Not a business owners advice but an instuctors watchful eye. For example my daughter is in all honors classes this year and last. Before that she was lazy as she never had to work at a goal or self fulfillment. Same principle.
Crane, do not worry about the passing judgement on curriculum comment. From you I do not take that as a negative. My background is in TKD, Aikido and Ju Jitsu also with my brother being an instructor in bujiken so I have a pretty good idea of varying curriculums.
I am against the new curriculumm but you know what that is ME. If anyone likes it than that is their perogitive.
Understood, I didn't mean any offense and glad to see it sounds like none was taken. Without knowing specifics, I have a general understanding of how techs and extensions are organized in EPAK so I can follow what you are describing in a general sort of way. I also agree, a teacher should keep students interested and learning, so long as what is being presented is quality.
My first reaction upon seeing how EPAK is structured was that it too is really shortened, compared to Tracys, and they must be missing out on a bunch of stuff. Now, years later, after thinking about it A LOT and doing my own revisions on the Tracys system, I am no longer convinced of this. The whole "quality over quantity" issue.
Since I don't know Palanzo's shortened curriculum, I'll ask a quick question. Are the techs solid, or foolish, in your opinion? Again, getting back to the quality over quantity thing. It seems that if the techs are well designed, you could get a lot of mileage out of them in the classroom, even if they are simple, and even if there are few of them. Often the simple stuff works the best, and is what you end up relying upon. Simple techs can be worked in lots of creative ways to really develop that particular skill. They can also be used as a conceptual starting point for students to develop their own creativity. Begin with the base tech, then start creating all kinds of variables and see what the student comes up with, while sticking to the concepts of the base tech. How many really different attacks and scenarios can the same basic tech be effectively used in?
The quality over quantity issue is one that I wrestle with a lot. On the one hand, you don't want to eliminate anything that is quality, but on the other hand, it is possible to become overloaded with things, even if they are all quality. It can become hard to know where it is best to draw the line. Most people solve the problem by just keeping the system that they have learned, with the belief (whether right or wrong, or simply right for YOU, regardless of how others see it) that it is all good and well structured. Others look to shake things up a bit and see if they can figure out a better way. Some add, some delete, some change, some do all. Either way can be good, even excellent, depending on the person.
Again, the original comment struck me as a bit odd, and I had a feeling you didn't mean it that way. It's just how it read to me, so I thought I'd give you a poke in the ribs a bit over it. I'll just sort of shut up now, since we're discussing curriculum that I don't have experience with.