JCVD

[Cri70]

Sorry, i don’t have access to Wikipedia from the location I’m at. Anyway, the wiki page must have links to its sources of information, if those sources are from recognized martial arts organizations that arrange tournaments and similar championship competitions I’ll be happy to take part of the links to those organizations webpages listing Mr..Van Varenberg.

The only info that I could google is that he supposedly competed in(and around?) Belgium between 1976-1980/(82)? in semi-contact format, that mean he competed between the age of 16-20/22 years old.

Kickboxing was introduced to Europe(Germany)around the time when Jean-Claude began competing .

However the info I can find on JCVD says he competed in semi-contact/(light contact) format, I’m not sure that was even on the map then in Europe when it comes to kick-boxing ?

But, as I understand JCVD trained in Shotokan karate and this styles own competition rule allow reasonable contact to body while it’s “skin” touch/contact to head/face - a kind of “semi-contact one could perhaps say. What I can find he’s supposedly has a 44 wins/4losses fight record, whatever that mean in competing in tournament competition?

I google Shotokan/karate organizations in Belgium, the little that comes up searching his both names on those webpages, nothing comes up. Also found a short list of the all times best kickboxers in Belgium, he’s not on there either. But I’m searching by writing in English, if I could write Flemish, French or German perhaps more results will come up ?

Compared with Dolph(Hans) Lundgren who’s martial arts/karate(kyukushin) career can easily be verified JCVD’s(Van Varenberg) seems a mystery.

Here's the relevant extract from Wikipedia page. Hopefully you can download Acrobat Reader.

Interesting that if you don't have access to Wikipedia and similar pages, you're essentially in the position we all were before the internet became widespread in 1996. In that time, it was very hard to get anything concrete on most things and stories and myths flourished as it was difficult to verify anything (or that anything had independent verification, such as Wikipedia). Nowadays you can literally learn general relativity and quantum mechanicsm from YouTube, if you're so inclined... (to say nothing of all the stuff that various autocrats don't want their subjects to know, of course).

Nothing of this is your fault of course.

But I mention it, because if JCVD fight record in Wikipedia was even remotely in doubt, it would be challenged very quickly - especially because he's a rather known person and occasionally subject of controversy. Just try to to put anything in Wikipedia, even minor, and you will see.

 

[Same Trick]

Isn't he French? Did he ever practice Savate?

During WW1 American soldiers eating fried potato sticks in France was actually in Belgium eating Belgian

 

[Same Trick]

There's no mystery on this end. I posted for you a list of his opponents, from a website you admitted is literally blocked from you by the Peoples Republic of China.

Van Damm never played a Soviet kickboxer. Where did you come up with that one?

From Wikipedia:

"On 8 March 1980, in Brussels, Belgium, he competed against his former teammate Patrick Teugels at the Forest National Arena on the undercard of the Dan Macaruso-Dominique Valera Professional Karate Association Light-Heavyweight World Championship bout.

Prior to this match, Teugels had defeated Van Damme twice by decision, including a match for the Belgium Lightweight Championship. Van Damme had a 1977 victory over Teugels. Teugels was coming off an impressive showing at the World Association of Kickboxing Organizations World Championships four months earlier, and was favored by some to win this match. According to reports, and Patrick Teugels' own interview (with photos), Teugels lost to Van Damme by TKO in the 1st round. Teugels was kicked in the nose and was unable to continue as a result. In a 2013 interview, Van Damme called this fight his most memorable match"

JCVD got his kickboxing break as a Soviet Russian



no retreat no surrender - Bing



This guys fight record seemingly show he only fought JCVD, I think they even were mates

Patrick Teugels | Fighter Page | Tapology

 

[Same Trick]

JCVD's amateur fighting and kickboxing record isn't up for debate. It's well established, and I doubt anyone else here has a better record.

Wikipedia is a reputable source. The fact that it's banned by dictatorial governments is a testament to that.

People admitting to posting from inside Communist China are not reputable. Whatever the subject.

Do you disagree?

Relax, I wrote earlier that JC studied Shotokan karate, in its own style specific kumite(free fighting) there’s allowed certain amount of contact- semi/light could perhaps be called, JC most certainly participated in such local karate tournaments, it seems he counted his wins and losses from such tournaments to create a fight record for some reasons…. It’s a quite unusual thing to do though, but he was just a kid back then dreaming of Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. He was just 20 yrs old when he began his movie career ambitions first in HK/(China(which didn’t work out then) then in the US

 

[Sammy Naur]

Relax, I wrote earlier that JC studied Shotokan karate, in its own style specific kumite(free fighting) there’s allowed certain amount of contact- semi/light could perhaps be called, JC most certainly participated in such local karate tournaments, it seems he counted his wins and losses from such tournaments to create a fight record for some reasons…. It’s a quite unusual thing to do though, but he was just a kid back then dreaming of Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris. He was just 20 yrs old when he began his movie career ambitions first in HK/(China(which didn’t work out then) then in the US

Whatever.

JCVD got his kickboxing break as a Soviet Russian



no retreat no surrender - Bing



This guys fight record seemingly show he only fought JCVD, I think they even were mates

Patrick Teugels | Fighter Page | Tapology

"Mates"

You have been shown his amateur and professional records.

You're not in China. You're in Britain, New Zealand, or Australia.

When did you decide it was time to assail JCVD's kickboxing record? When you realized you didn't have one of your own?

You're going on Ignore.

 

[Sammy Naur]

Nothing of this is your fault of course.

Oh at this stage its entirely his fault.

This guy is a troll. And he's not Chinese, either.

Seriously, I have no tolerance for these types.

I think the moderators should look further into the person who started this thread.

"Same Trick", huh. No way he's in Anhui. He's playing us.

 

[opr1945]

"You're not in China. You're in Britain, New Zealand, or Australia."

"This guy is a troll. And he's not Chinese, either."



How did you learn this????

 

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