It doesn't take 100% effort

Not disagreeing with anyone who has said they see folks with talent quit and folks without natural talent stick it out. I donā€™t doubt that you have.

However, thereā€™s a lot of bias in the thread ignoring all the people with no talent who quit and all the very talented people who end up being high level practitioners and elite level athletes.

I donā€™t believe talent (or lack of) is any kind of reliable indicator of grit, patience, determination, or any other relevant trait. Just seeing a theme in a couple of the posts in the thread.
I agree, but I wasnā€™t interpreting anyone as saying that talented individuals are more likely to drop out than the less talented. Just that when they do, they will eventually be outpaced by those less talented people who donā€™t quit.

Just from personal experience, Iā€™ve managed to surpass many training partners who had much more ability but didnā€™t stick around for the long haul.

Of course there are also super-talented practitioners who work their asses off and also train consistently their whole lives. Iā€™m never catching up to those guys.
 
I agree, but I wasnā€™t interpreting anyone as saying that talented individuals are more likely to drop out than the less talented. Just that when they do, they will eventually be outpaced by those less talented people who donā€™t quit.

Just from personal experience, Iā€™ve managed to surpass many training partners who had much more ability but didnā€™t stick around for the long haul.

Of course there are also super-talented practitioners who work their asses off and also train consistently their whole lives. Iā€™m never catching up to those guys.
Totally. As I said, Iā€™m not disagreeing with anyone. I am just posting a friendly PSA. This is a pretty common lie people tell themselves. Itā€™s along the lines of how smart people donā€™t have common sense, pretty people are shallow, and so on.
 
I agree, but I wasnā€™t interpreting anyone as saying that talented individuals are more likely to drop out than the less talented. Just that when they do, they will eventually be outpaced by those less talented people who donā€™t quit.

Just from personal experience, Iā€™ve managed to surpass many training partners who had much more ability but didnā€™t stick around for the long haul.

Of course there are also super-talented practitioners who work their asses off and also train consistently their whole lives. Iā€™m never catching up to those guys.
Sorry. Read a little closer. I thought you were saying this isnā€™t what you meant.

Some folks appear to be saying this very thing. Not you and Iā€™m specifically not trying to call anyone in particular out. But there are a few posts that are pretty clearly implying this very thing.
 
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