In these strange times....

[Tez3]

COVID-19 is projected to kill far more people than that before this crisis is over.

And it will kill most of those in the refugee camps because of those wars.

While reeling off the numbers of dead in those wars you should remind yourself that many of those dead were friends, colleagues and family to a lot of us, not just numbers to be bandied around.

 

[dvcochran]

Ahem ''In addition to those killed by direct acts violence, the number of indirect deaths — those resulting from disease, displacement, and the loss of critical infrastructure — is believed to be several times higher, running into the millions.''

BS, self made up numbers. BS

 

[jks9199]

Usually us older guys can say "this reminds of..."
But this pandemic thing is different, it doesn't remind me of anything that I can remember.
And we can't know where it's going from here.

While we all spend more time stuck sheltering in place, at least we have a nice forum to talk chop and such.

Maybe it's a good idea to lighten up on all the bickering, insulting and anger fuelled personal attack bull sheet. And it really is bull sheet. Heck, we all train, it's not like we discuss how Martial Arts is better than baseball, parkour or online poker, we're all Martial Artists. That should count for something

Maybe we call all chill a bit and enjoy each other more. Just a thought.

Stay safe, everyone. I kind of like you guys and wish you and your families well.

emphasis added, because I'd hate to have to get official...

I agree; there's nothing to really compare it to. It's eerie; traffic at "rush hour" is less than a slow day. But, much to my surprise so far, people are being somewhat nicer to each other. There are still a lot here in the US and in my area who don't really seem to understand the threat -- hell, I'm still not sure what's what in that regard, but I damn scared -- and who aren't complying with requests which is why we now have a month of shutdown, and the school year ended early.

Then there are the economic impacts... Lots of people are losing jobs, businesses are going under, whole segments of industry and commerce are being shattered. If they prolong the lock down much beyond early May, I fear that our economy will be fully destroyed, and the world-wide economies are so interrelated that they can't say what's what...

 

[drop bear]

What tanks? We don't have any. If we did there is a dedicated armed Guard Service to do just that.
The military don't get on 'troop carriers' any more, they get in Chinooks, I imagine though a couple of Apaches will soon quieten the rioters down don't you considering many of the troops worked in Africa during the Ebola epidemic I doubt they are bothered by this disease. If you think they aren't prepared for this then you're mistaken, action was taken quite some time ago which means the troops will be ready for whatever they need to do.

We get troops in bushmasters every time they call out for a cyclone.

 

[Dirty Dog]

What tanks? We don't have any.

WHAT? No tanks??? You need some. Really, you do. Every army needs some tanks. Tanks are just too cool not to have. I'd have one myself, if I could.

 

[jobo]

BS, self made up numbers. BS

i provided a link to the article, the number come from an esteemed american university

 

[Tez3]

WHAT? No tanks??? You need some. Really, you do. Every army needs some tanks. Tanks are just too cool not to have. I'd have one myself, if I could.

We used to but Op Herrick showed that they were too vulnerable to ieds and land mines so a new breed of vehicle was designed and used. We have a lot of them because they are still being used in Afghanistan, many people think the troops were pulled out but there's both American and British troops there in sizeable numbers.

 

[Tez3]

BS, self made up numbers. BS

who is making these numbers up and how do you to plan to show they are wrong?

Costs of War

 

[Dirty Dog]

We used to but Op Herrick showed that they were too vulnerable to ieds and land mines so a new breed of vehicle was designed and used. We have a lot of them because they are still being used in Afghanistan, many people think the troops were pulled out but there's both American and British troops there in sizeable numbers.

I couldn't possibly care less. Tanks are cool. Full stop. If I had a spare two or three hundred thousand lying around, I'd sure buy one.
Maybe when I get my next paycheck from MartialTalk.

 

[_Simon_]

Usually us older guys can say "this reminds of..."
But this pandemic thing is different, it doesn't remind me of anything that I can remember.
And we can't know where it's going from here.

While we all spend more time stuck sheltering in place, at least we have a nice forum to talk chop and such.

Maybe it's a good idea to lighten up on all the bickering, insulting and anger fuelled personal attack bull sheet. And it really is bull sheet. Heck, we all train, it's not like we discuss how Martial Arts is better than baseball, parkour or online poker, we're all Martial Artists. That should count for something

Maybe we call all chill a bit and enjoy each other more. Just a thought.

Stay safe, everyone. I kind of like you guys and wish you and your families well.

Well said Buka . You're a warm soul whom I have grown rather fond of, as have many here.

We do have a nice place here, and I enjoy all your company very much.

I feel like alot of you guys are dojo mates.

Stay safe all

 

[_Simon_]

Post up on my 'makes you laugh' thread!
The UK is in lockdown now, mostly due to the idiots who couldn't understand what social isolation meant and why they were asked to do it. We are allowed out of the house only to shop for food (only food shops open now), get medical treatment and essential workers are the only ones allowed to work. Two people max outside, police will have extra powers. Strict new curbs on life in UK announced by PM

Oh wow really... yeah am pretty sure we're heading in that direction, albeit slowly. But feels like it'll happen very soon.

Take care of yourself and loved ones Tez3.

 

[_Simon_]

Like back in the days of The Mods and The Rockers? I hope not.

I don’t think there will be riots here. But if there is I kind of feel sorry for the rioters. I don’t think they’re going to be handled/tolerated the way they usually are.

Social distance rioting! Livestream rioting!

 

[Tez3]

I couldn't possibly care less. Tanks are cool. Full stop. If I had a spare two or three hundred thousand lying around, I'd sure buy one.
Maybe when I get my next paycheck from MartialTalk.

We used to have them up here at the garrison, the 'whump' as they fired up on the ranges was an everyday occurrence, used to scare the tourists lol. As I've said before we have a lot of sheep up here and the farmers had a nice sideline in compensation for sheep either blown up or run over by the tanks. We have a road which is used to get to the ranges that has extra strong kerbstones, the road is still known as the 'tank road' to locals.

 

[dvcochran]

who is making these numbers up and how do you to plan to show they are wrong?

Costs of War

Brown University; This article was biased from jump. It is laced with journalist misspeak and misleading statements. Such as; how is 310,000 the majority of 800,000? One of many examples. Take some of your free time and research the refugees. Most of them happily left of their own free will a country/area in which they were living with absolutely no hope for a future of any kind, before intervention.
I have no idea how a mind can get so twisted that it thinks the US created the Islamic State. Twilight Zone stuff.
One glaring stat that I could find no mention of was that of the 800,000 killed, 64% of this was caused by in-faction fighting. Countrymen fighting countrymen. That seems to be conveniently left out.
Your country still shows as having a considerable troop count in Afghanistan.

I am still not certain what your agenda is. A specific article/site is not accurate sampling. It is spin doctoring which is something we certainly do not need right now.
It is sad that we have to resort to surfing through articles from multiple sources understand what the media is actually saying theses days.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Ahem ''In addition to those killed by direct acts violence, the number of indirect deaths — those resulting from disease, displacement, and the loss of critical infrastructure — is believed to be several times higher, running into the millions.''

Did you perhaps miss the point of this thread?

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I couldn't possibly care less. Tanks are cool. Full stop. If I had a spare two or three hundred thousand lying around, I'd sure buy one.
Maybe when I get my next paycheck from MartialTalk.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Social distance rioting! Livestream rioting!

Riot via Twitch. I'm going to go put that on my interest list right now.

 

[Tez3]

Your country still shows as having a considerable troop count in Afghanistan.

As does yours. You actually have more than the UK, over 12,000 plus civilian contractors.

A specific article/site is not accurate sampling. It is spin doctoring which is something we certainly do not need right now.

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You are incorrect in this instance.. The specific site I posted is the university one on which you can read the actual report, it is not the site jobo posted up. If you have a disagreement then it is with the university. You need facts and figures to refute their report not just 'oh it's BS'. You have made lots of statements without substantiating any of them.

I have no idea how a mind can get so twisted that it thinks the US created the Islamic State. Twilight Zone stuff.

I don't actually think that but I do know that whenever a country votes in an even vaguely 'socialist' government let alone a communist one the US supplies those opposed to that government with arms and training. I take it you didn't realise that most of the Taliban's weapons used against the Allies were supplied by the American government of the day to fight the communist government (Operation Cyclone from the 'Reagan Doctrine ) and then the Soviets who came to bolster the elected government. It's old news, quite factual so please don't deny it.

And now I shall await with total lack of interest your diatribe against the UK.

 

[Yokozuna514]

We used to but Op Herrick showed that they were too vulnerable to ieds and land mines so a new breed of vehicle was designed and used. We have a lot of them because they are still being used in Afghanistan, many people think the troops were pulled out but there's both American and British troops there in sizeable numbers.

What's the new breed of vehicle being used to replace the UK's tanks ?

 

[jobo]

Did you perhaps miss the point of this thread?

i thought the point was, '' these strange times ''

i think it strange that the mourning and sympathy for the atrocity that was 9.11 doesnt extend to the massive loss of life and human suffering that resulted from 9 11, ( im laying no blame for this, just stating facts) just coz this happened in the main to human beings who are not american or British if you throw 77 into the mix, even stranger that people are denying it happened at all

nations and im including the UK in this, just so you dont think its anti american bias, have suddenly developed a real regard for the sanctity of human life, that didn't exist before, it became a threat to them personally,

you cant find a homeless person in Manchester, they have put them all in nice hotels. no one in power cared at all about there well being until they became a threat to the safety of the not homeless. suddenly they matter, that is '' strange'', '' we dont care if they die of cold or malnutrition, but not the virus, cant have that '' even stranger''


this is a life threat to circa 1 % of the global population, which is a eye watering number, however 10 % of the world population are to malnourished to lead a healthy life and circa 10 million die of starvation a year every year which is its self an eye watering number, a 100 million a decade, about which very few people care tuppence ( infact if they all gave tuppence it could be largely eradicated) because in the main it doesn't effect them at all,,, strange beyond belief that dieing of one thing is considered worse than dieing of another