so as i describe someone i know.
But he has a interesting perspective sending three boys into martial arts and is also of the weapons/survivalist club.
"its all ********" is pretty much his attitude. And went through the explanation in discussing why i am doing wrong by sending my kid to taekwondo.
close as i can i will repeat this mindset.
Apparently he sent his kids for six years. Then they were getting their *** kicked by someone in jujitsu. so he went to their school and yanked them out. Went to another instructor somewhere else and asked about a "advanced, fast moving program".
his opinon is the six years was a waste of money. His boys still got their butt kicked. He said their belt in that was about worthless.
And this is why kids should not be put into black belts. And in taekwondo, six years is at least second poom, possibly third, and most likey, the school is using black belts, not poom belts.
If he were my friend, I would ask him what the context of the "but kicking" was. Was it a bully at school or his kid and this other kid just trying out what they knew? A jujutsu student learns to take people down and pretzel them and is probably training with resisting partners. The taekwondoist is practicing striking and forms solo, striking defenses in a one step format with a cooperating partner, and point fighting of some kind with a resisting partner (that includes WTF, which while full contact, is still fighting for points to a limited target area). Most TKD schools don't teach striking vs. grappling.
My solution would be to have my kids crosstrain in jujutsu, or since they're high school age or younger, get off on the cheap and put them on the wrestling team.
Perhaps partly due to the school i am not sure. The new instructor explained the curriculum, said he couldnt move the kids that quick. My friend of course, is all about quick. Figures if the military can train someone to kill in a few weeks then a martial arts instructor should be able to do it as well. So my friend says nevermind, goes to another school.The instructor gives the same speech about not being able to move the kids along that quick. He actually ended up going to a number of schools until he got the answer he wanted. Even the last saying no. But then the question comes up "well what will it cost me for you to do so?"
suddenly, at triple the price, the kids are on the fast moving program and not in regular classes.
so my friend suggests i do the same. And says he tried the regular way, they are just out to take his money, the kids learned little to nothing effective quick enough over years. And his justification is "we dont have time for this. They are out to waste our time and money." as in i dont have time either to wait ten years for my child to get to the point of being able to defend themself. He explains my daughter would probably end up raped before they teach her anything worth a damn to prevent it. And goes back to his boys and their first six years as a example. "six years and they are getting their *** kicked by a kid who spent a year in jujitso and they were a three belts ahead of them... and that was just a kid. They should have been able to defend themselves against adults after six years." and then of course again
"we don't have time for these games"...
keep in mind the background however. This is part of the weapons, guns, survivalist, prepare for the worst group.
My question to him is... but is your boys learning a art now? which of course he doesn't really care. works or it doesnt. I really want my daughter learning a art. But it does pose a couple questions.
not really sure what to make of it. Not even sure what the his boys are in now but they are in the teenage years and i have a feeling it is something a little more serious in training. Keeping my daughter in her tae for now though. she likes it. i am happy with it. But far has the time and money, preparing for the worst and legitamacy of much of the training. thoughts?
It sounds like you know what you want from your child's school and that she is happy there. Keep her there.
Respectfully tell your friend that you and your daughter are getting what you want out of the class that she takes and wish him well with his kid's new school.
To be blunt, there is nothing inherently wrong with what he wants; minus the teaching kids to kill part, he wants his kids to be training in practical techniques in a self defense oriented class that will prepare them for multiple ranges of combat. Essentially, he wants a meat and potatoes class.
But most traditional martial arts' teaching pedagogy is not set up that way and the level of hard training needed is very hard to come by these days (almost impossible in a kids class) unless you pick your school out very carefully.
Daniel
Hes lucky it wasnt BJJ or it coulda been six months vs his six years and his kids still woulda lost 
