How would a high level Tai Chi martial artist do against a high level MMA?

[Hanzou]

Clearly, that's a high-level Tai Chi martial artist. I guess this is settled, then.

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Even if that's true, the Bjj exponent is a white belt, so I'm not seeing the problem.

 

[Steve]

Clearly, that's a high-level Tai Chi martial artist. I guess this is settled, then.

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Lol. I told you guys.

 

[mograph]

Even if that's true, the Bjj exponent is a white belt, so I'm not seeing the problem.

What was the thread title again?

 

[mograph]

Lol. I told you guys.

Point taken.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Except that video wasn't a Tuisho competition, it was a friendly roll between two grapplers.
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Except no one ever said it was a tuishou competition and no one ever said it was BJJ or a grappling meet up either, they did however label it "Marcelo Garcia and Tuishou Chen Do Karate-do". It was a friendly meet up between to Martial arts practitioners., I am sorry and saddened that you cannot see that

Again, if Tuisho isn't a complete grappling system then my apologies for thinking it was.

Well we have established, multiple times now, based on your posts, that you have no idea what Tuishou is.

For example;

1) it is not a system, it is part of multiple systems that use differently based on that system and basically it is used as a two-person training system within those systems for various reasons and applications

2) did you even bother to read, with an unbiased eye, the post I made giving a general explanation that there are different types of Tuishou and the one the person in the video does is "Competition".


My guess is you didn't, you won't and likely do not care to. So I have said all I can say to you on the subject, you obviously have strong , albeit incorrect, views of all things that are not called "Grappling" so any further discussion with you on this topic would be a complete waste of my time.

 

[Xue Sheng]

I didn't say that either, Xue did.

You didn't understand what he posted did you

 

[Hanzou]

What was the thread title again?

Well that was the only example I could find of a Tai Chi practitioner participating in a MMA-style competition. If you find an example of a "high-level" practitioner fighting at a similar event, feel free to post it.

I personally don't believe that the results would be all that different, but I'm open to being "pleasantly" surprised.

 

[Flying Crane]

Except that video wasn't a Tuisho competition, it was a friendly roll between two grapplers.

Again, if Tuisho isn't a complete grappling system then my apologies for thinking it was.

It was a friendly roll between two people. Not two grapplers, or at least not two grappling specialists. They apparently agreed to play by some sort of grappling rule set.

 

[Xue Sheng]

yeah as I expected, when you can't say anything then hit the disagree

 

[Hanzou]

yeah as I expected, when you can't say anything then hit the disagree

You said that further conversation would be a waste of your time, so why would I continue the conversation?

 

[Hanzou]

It was a friendly roll between two people. Not two grapplers, or at least not two grappling specialists. They apparently agreed to play by some sort of grappling rule set.

Actually he would be considered a grappling specialist due to the nature of the sport. Competitive Tuisho looks very similar to sumo wrestling, which is also a form of grappling.

Clearly it isn't a complete system of grappling in of itself, but merely a grappling subset of a martial art.

 

[Flying Crane]

Actually he would be considered a grappling specialist due to the nature of the sport. Competitive Tuisho looks very similar to sumo wrestling, which is also a form of grappling.

Clearly it isn't a complete system of grappling in of itself, but merely a grappling subset of a martial art.

No he isn't.

 

[Hanzou]

No he isn't.

Looks like grappling to me.

 

[mograph]

Well that was the only example I could find of a Tai Chi practitioner participating in a MMA-style competition.

Was "in a MMA-style competition" in the thread title?

 

[Hanzou]

Was "in a MMA-style competition" in the thread title?

Pretty much, since the best way to determine how a tai chi exponent would do against a MMA exponent would be in a format with as little rules as possible.

 

[mograph]

Pretty much,

"Pretty much?" Sure. Whatever.

... since the best way to determine how a tai chi exponent would do against a MMA exponent would be in a format with as little rules as possible.

Wouldn't "the street" have fewer rules than an MMA environment?

 

[Hanzou]

"Pretty much?" Sure. Whatever.
Wouldn't "the street" have fewer rules than an MMA environment?

Sure, but it's highly doubtful you'd have two high level practicioners engaged in a street fight. Much less a practitioner who does Tai Chi.

So the next best bet is a format similar to the vid I posted.

 

[mograph]

MMA-style? Sure. Whatever you say.

 

[Flying Crane]

Looks like grappling to me.

On again, you are wrong.

 

[Hanzou]

Would it be a case that the Tai Chi man would end up on his back unable to defend the x2 leg takedown and pounded out in no time like with many single styles vs the MMA mixed style?I

Based on the evidence provided in this thread, I'm afraid the answer would be yes.