I made no assumptions - hence the (facetious) question. But you are making statements that seem designed to be inflammatory.I expect nothing from anyone here, I also never said I did, did I? Stop making assumptions......
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I made no assumptions - hence the (facetious) question. But you are making statements that seem designed to be inflammatory.I expect nothing from anyone here, I also never said I did, did I? Stop making assumptions......
the science of physical conditioning is pretty well proven, the only difference of opinion is how much you need to a street fight, and the guy who is saying "not that much" is already in fantastic shape, so is seeing things differently to those of us that are trying to get there,Not at all, I'm saying in other words that opinions aren't scientifically proven. So everyone has their "own truth", which is fine by me.
You are making assumptions that my reasoning is designed to flame others or topics which isn't the case.
You can always put me on block if you don't like to read my posts, it's really simple and doesn't require any tutorial.
The tone communicates something different.Is it that hard to read?
not hard , just misguided, lots of the folk on here are experts, the opinion of experts is valuable, you could pay a lot of money to get the guidance you can get on here for free,Is it that hard to read?
yes indeed its easy to get lost in a middle aged fantasy that you are as good as you ever were, and if you are only comparing yourself to others of your age group, then it can be quite a low standard you are comparing yourself against.Generally true, but even if you only train for self-defense there are some good reasons to train your conditioning.
- You might have to fight for a bit and then run. Good to have some lung power left to do so.
- You might be running away from your assailants, get caught, and then have to fight. Good to not already be exhausted.
- You might have to fight after some other exhausting activity - digging your car out of a snow bank or helping a friend move all his furniture into his new 3rd story apartment.
- The better conditioned you are, the longer you can train and spar, resulting in a higher skill level available when you need it for real.
- Even if you don't ever get into a fight, being in good shape will help your general health and quality of life.
My conditioning isn't at the level I want it to be, but it's all relative. I'm comparing myself to the serious amateur and professional competitors and fighters I often work out with who are half my age. Compared to them, I'm in pathetic shape and can only hang with them in sparring because I know how to move efficiently and conserve my energy. On the other hand, if you compare me to my peer group of 53 year old computer programmers, I'm in fantastic shape. Putting my ego aside, I'd rather compare myself to the young fighters, because it gives me motivation to train harder.
Generally true, but even if you only train for self-defense there are some good reasons to train your conditioning.
it hard to argue with that, but !!!!!In my opinion - conditioning the core is key. It is the rock on which the foundation is built.
Conditioning the mind. It will help in any and all parts of martial training. Mental conditioning will help in everything you do in life. But is it for you? Nahhh.
Core is the ability to function your whole body as one unit. The following training doesn't build up you big muscle. It builds up your core function.what do you mean by the core?
bit I'm asking what muscles make up the,core, people keep saying core but won't answer this simple question.?Core is the ability to function your whole body as one unit. The following training doesn't build up you big muscle. It builds up your core function.
bit I'm asking what muscles make up the,core, people keep saying core but won't answer this simple question.?
bit I'm asking what muscles make up the,core, people keep saying core but won't answer this simple question.?
i am an "expert," just not in ma,, lots of my fellow posters areThere's always a choice like I gave you before, but you seems to like going at me, like you started this discussion about my remark and derailing the whole discussion at hand.
@jobo who the hell made you an expert? I don't know your credentials so should I treat you like an expert or like a fellow enthousiast? The 2nd is more likely.....
bit I'm asking what muscles make up the,core, people keep saying core but won't answer this simple question.?
it hard to argue with that, but !!!!!
what do you mean by the core?
and
what sort of mental conditioning are you talking about,
i know what i think they are! Other people,seem to have different interpretation, which is why i askedAs they say in Pidgin [Hawaiian slang] out here....Wha, Google stay broke?
Here. Do a couple of sets of all of these. Later, the parts of your body that really feel worked - that's your core. My guess is you probably knew that.
15 Core Strengthening Exercises for Athletes
that's a comprehensive answer, but different than what the other guy has said they are, he has focused on the abs area and lower back, you seem to have included just,about,all the muscles in the torso, with the,exception of the pecs for some reason?I will give it a try.............. the Torso core muscle groups are........
Abdominals types:-
- Internal and external abdominal obliques
- Tranversus abdomiinis
- Rectus abdominals
Hip Musculature types:-
- Illopsoas
- Tensor fasciae latae
- Rectus femoirs
- Pectineus
- Gluteus maximus
- Aductor brevis
- Longus and magnus
- Gemellus superior and inferior
- Obturator intenus and extemus
- Quadratus femoris
- Medius
- Femoris
- Pirisfromis
- Sartorious
Spinal Musculature types:-
- Erector spinae
- Illocastalis lumborum and thoracis
- Rotatores
- Lattissiums dorsi
- Serratus anterior
- Trapezius
- Psoas major
- Paraspinals
- Multifidis
- Quadratus lumborum
If I'm wrong I know I'm close enough with out being a doctor thats what I have learned over the years and still learning.........................................................
Here are some images and I have other stuff that I own for study.
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By picking a definition and working with it. To me, "core" is the muscles with primary involvement in keeping us upright from the pelvis up (so, not the legs,etc.) to the clavicles (so not the neck). Pecs wouldn't be in there.that's a comprehensive answer, but different than what the other guy has said they are, he has focused on the abs area and lower back, you seem to have included just,about,all the muscles in the torso, with the,exception of the pecs for some reason?
how are you supposed to do a core work out if nobody can agree what/ where the core is?