Headhunter
Senior Master
Screw that I want to actually be able to use my limbs when I'm in my 80s
Have you ever tried Shaolin bone conditioning?
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jobo
Grandmaster
brainlessly punching trees is stupid, but brainlessly allowing somonee to kick you in the nuts isn't ?
breaking bones constantly will cause excessive calcium build up, and that adnormality is what sane people will try and avoid by not breaking bones constantly
, as for the tree scrapping and slapping, yea go on if you fancy it, wing chuner people are big on hitting pieces of wood, the rest of the ma world gets by with out it,
though you could get much the same effect by getting a spade and digging someone's garden over and get 10$ for your time
.all through the tree hugger vid, I kept thinking, he would be much better of conditioning his abs
1. Light punches for starters and, if this video is right, there will come a day I'll be able to allow someone to kick me full force in the nuts. I'm aware of the risks regarding my reproductive functions, which is why I'm not sure yet whether I'll continue to do this exercise. I guess, in the end, it depends on whether I value my desire to become more powerful over my sexual desires. But maybe I do really!
2. Did I say anything about breaking?
3. Interesting. I'll see if I have a chance to do it.
jobo
Grandmaster
no,but I that vid you quoted did , clearly you either didn't listen or under stand
Oh, you're talking about microfractures. I thought that, by breaking, you meant something more serious.
I'm going to have to go the other way on this. I think he should hit himself in the balls one thousand times for each of us.
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Honestly i have no idea as i don't think there has been a medical study done of this, but a GP hinted at bone conditioning for persons with weak bones when i asked about it.
Also just remove your testicles, cant get hit in them if you dont have them. *taps head*
Also just remove your testicles, cant get hit in them if you dont have them. *taps head*
jobo
Grandmaster
there's been tons of medical studies done on it, and any percusive exercise , even walking strengths the bon e, from the inside or more exactly a lack of exercise weakens them, that's different from breaking the bone with micro fractures , which causes calcium build up on the outside of the bone, is it stronger, maybe, but it's deformed and knarley and if it happens to be your knuggles, they won't work any more its conning very close to the definition of self harm
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wanderingstudent
Yellow Belt
#2: Micro-fractures (and the process of healing them) is what bone conditioning is.
I think I recall reading that weight-bearing has some effect on bone density, too, to a lesser degree.
Yeah, I've seen the knuckles of old masters who have been conditioning them for years. They're definitely malformed. Not so pleasant to the eye but still functional.
That depends on your definition of 'functional' and also what degree of functionality you deem acceptable.
lklawson
Grandmaster
Not even close to being true.
http://cbd.atspace.com/articles/breakyourhand/breakyourhand.html
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
lklawson
Grandmaster
NASA put a crap-ton of research into this. They found some very interesting stuff.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
I like that article, but something tells me nothing will dissuade the palm strike brigade...
lklawson
Grandmaster
It's all about managed stressors to the physique. This includes not just the bone but also connective tissue. As I mentioned, NASA has done a lot of research on this, all of it freely available. There's also been a lot of research on the subject due to geriatric medicine. In both cases the point has been how to mitigate bone density loss, mitigate connective tissue weakening, how to increase bone density, how to increase connective tissue strength, and related issues.
The research is more or less freely available and there are a number of not-so-startling conclusions as well as some interesting mitigation and promotion strategies. The easiest ones are simple. Just excercise reasonably. The muscle contractions, minor "impacts" (such as stepping during "power walking"), and related stressors signal the body to increase bone density. There's a lot more to it, including having usable calcium to put into the bones, diet, and even vitamins and drugs. But we don't have to rely on guesswork or 1,000 year old misunderstandings of human bio-mechanical systems. Modern research has given us a much better understanding. Now we understand why some things our ancestors didn't work, what they did that worked, and often how to make them work "better." And our understanding is constantly improving.
Peace favor your sword,
Kirk
Neat. How about I hang a rag stuffed backbag from somewhere and punch it?
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