They arent ULTRA but you compare them to say... a honda or a yamaha, and you pay SEVERAL thousand more for the comparable Harley.
If you just want a little sporty, then yeah, thats about the same price as my Vstar, give or take.
My instructors Harley Night Train was close to double what my Vstar cost me.
Like I tell others I paid 9965.00 for a used Electra Glide and had it for 4 years and I put on a lotta miles..When I traded up for my Ultra they gave me 9900.00 for it no questions asked..I could have gotten 10,000.00 but 2 color bikes were in that year..Try that with your Japper....