Twin Fist
Grandmaster
no, i am being ACCURATE
NO ONE SAID IT WAS UNIQUE TO BLACKS
but the cases we are discussing ARE
you are so GD'd quick to be PC you dont even pay attention to what is being said.
Flash Mobs and race
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no, i am being ACCURATE
NO ONE SAID IT WAS UNIQUE TO BLACKS
but the cases we are discussing ARE
you are so GD'd quick to be PC you dont even pay attention to what is being said.
I understand that, just addressing some root causes, Whether B or W, M or F.
The OP asked for thoughts, and that is what I gave. If I left it to face value, "blacks stealing things, and beating up whites", that would not lend itself to a solution based discussion worth talking about in the study, now would it??
It starts at home... parents not teaching their children right and wrong then the kids get older and roam the streets following bad advice (lets knock off a 7-11 or go find anybody and beat them up) and thus giving themselves a bad name.
Sure it's a mayors job... provided the mayor is the type of leader the people will follow. Being insulting doesn't help but knowing how to address people so that they'll wake up and see what is happening in their own little community/town/city is not a good thing going.
Blaming this or that doesn't take it to the source of the problem (which needs to be correctly identified), and it doesn't solve it either.
Sure it's a mayors job... provided the mayor is the type of leader the people will follow. Being insulting doesn't help but knowing how to address people so that they'll wake up and see what is happening in their own little community/town/city is not a good thing going.
Blaming this or that doesn't take it to the source of the problem (which needs to be correctly identified), and it doesn't solve it either.
I agree with the Mayor! IMO, I dont think people are getting as upset compared to if this was a white mayor. Holy ****, watch out...all hell would break loose then. Race aside, he's telling these people to stop acting like *******s and grow up!
From the article:
"while others say this approach lets the mayor off the hook for failing to address the needs of young black Philadelphians."
What does this mean?
I saw that on the news. What a bunch of scumbags. This is proving what? IMO, its proving that there are alot of people with no lives, nothing better to do, than run around being *******s!
Yes, the economy sucks, but running around like a bunch of animals isn't proving anything either. People can control their own lives.
Who me? Not that it matters except to aid in knowing why so that a possible means of prevention could be found. Why do people kill? Why do they steal? Why do they lie, cheat, or do anything that is illegal by our laws in this country? Our society says these things are wrong and it was by a majority vote that these laws were passed and implemented.
Those who do not abide by our laws will eventually get caught and punished.
Big question or the real question is/should be... why do they HATE?
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head with this post! Kids will learn what they live. That being said, apparently their parents are winners just like their kids. *being sarcastic there
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People are taught to hate. And that teaching, or lack of, is a great motivator, to cause a divide between haves and have not's. The problem is huge and getting bigger. The laws being broken in the OP video are the end game of a long sad situation. The present administration won't be satisfied until they level the playing field and all hell lets loose. Like I said a few posts back, It's the attitude that "you owe me something". And when that something is not given, then it is taken. When the people in that OP vid go home with all that stuff, what do they tell their kids, if they have any. The Mayor is telling people to man up and take responsability, I say time is running OUT.
WC_lun
Senior Master
I don't think there is one single answer to why. I do think race as base cause is not accurate and just plays into the phobias. I do believe a lot of it is socio-economic. Many of these kids are growing up with very little hope of ever escaping the poverty they are being raised in. The few people they do see escaping the poverty are athletes, musicians, and criminals, many of who flaunt a thug type life style. Compassion for others and respect for oneself start to erode when those qualities are not taught and shown as inherently weak. Since most poor are minority in this country it starts to look like a race issue. It becomes like a snake eating its tail when minority youth believe this is how they are supposed to act, making it a self fullfilling prophesy. The truth is no young person of any race is inherently prone to violence like this. It is taught, many cases by society at large.
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
true, but certain cultures and groups do not by and large teach respect for the law, the property of others, etc
like poor people for example. Followers of "thug life" for another example
Big Don
Sr. Grandmaster
Uh, I thought you were "Kind of done with this"...
RandomPhantom700
Master of Arts
Yes, I do, as should judges, law enforcement, legislatures, and society as a whole. That doesn't mean that there's an excuse for it, but ignoring the psychology behind criminal behavior is effectively burying your head in the sand and waiting for it to happen again.
WC_lun
Senior Master
The "thug life" comment I can agree with because of what it is. The poor people part is total nonsense.
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
RandomPhantom700
Master of Arts
So that entire thread only "kind of" needed to be posted?
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
i disagree because crime is an irrational act most of the time, so the motivations will not make sense to a rational person. And in the end it is irrelevant. If it is a crime, punish the person doing it, no matter why they did it. Sure, SOME circumstances are mitigating, but that isnt really that common is it?
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
I am not the subject of this thread, you want to ask me something, do it in PM please, thread drift is a BAD THING if i remember right.
Big Don
Sr. Grandmaster
I disagree, there is one single answer: Some people are asses who do not behave the way they ought.
I don't think race is an excuse for anything. If you are being a jerk, you're a jerk, what you look like really has no bearing on it.
The truest statement you will read today: You cannot tell a bad person on sight.
