A) because people are free to do as they please unless it violates the law.
B) because who is anyone to decide what the 'true form' of martial arts is?
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A) because people are free to do as they please unless it violates the law.
B) because who is anyone to decide what the 'true form' of martial arts is?
He has twice used the term "immoral". That's more than just a passion for the tradition.
There's a couple lines in what he said that had the idea of imposing own standards for martial arts.
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He's stating that there is a 'true' form of martial arts, and that student's and teachers should be following this.
Basically saying that if MA are not being taught the 'right' way, then it is making a joke, immoral, and unacceptable.
If he focused on the way his version of MA impacts people positively, that would be one thing, but he's much more focusing on how schools shouldn't teach the wrong way. Which makes sense. He's angry, he's realizing what he did for over a decade wasn't what he wanted. But it's still imposing his own standards for others.
JR 137
Grandmaster
Maybe you guys are right, but I think you’re being a bit too critical (?).
Trying to find the right word.
Do you think we're reading too much into it, or being too harsh on OP?
JR 137
Grandmaster
Reading a bit too much into it. Thanks for allowing me to clarify.
Possibly. I can't speak for Gerry, but I've seen that attitude enough times that it's easy for me to assume it's what's going on.
JR 137
Grandmaster
I’m not saying you’re completely off, just perhaps it’s not to the extent I think you think it is.
I’ve never met him nor you, so all I have are words on a screen and some assumptions. I’m trying this whole positivity thing, so maybe that’s part of it too
JR 137
Grandmaster
Are you promoting me
dvcochran
Grandmaster
I did not see a way to send you a word document. This gist was similarities in out backgrounds.Are you promoting me
JR 137
Grandmaster
PM me if you’d like. I can give you my email address.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
It depends what people are claiming. For me I compare it to medicine. Or more simply a diet shake.
If nobody loses weight drinking the thing the fact it takes good doesn't justify that.
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It's entirely possible the emotional content of the post clouds the way I read it.
Agreed. And not just in this direction - I've even been guilty of a bit of it, myself, in the past.
For something claiming to promote weight loss, I agree. The issue I have is with the blanket statement of "should". If someone wants to train for the fun of the movement, who in the world has the right to say they shouldn't? And if someone wants to teach those folks in a way that suits their needs, why does that become immoral?
JR 137
Grandmaster
Under the ideology in question, Tai Chi as most people know it would be banned.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
It depends what you are saying you do. Or what you are implying you do.
Using terms like self defense are on there own meaningless. There is no standard and there is no way of discerning what constitutes effective self defense methods.
So self defense can mean training for no purpose other than the fun of getting out there and meeting people.
So people using those terms should be clear about whether they are an evidence based training program or not.
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
It is interesting you say that because I invented my own Tai Chi. And so am a grand master in that art.
And the focus is definitely on fun.
Which is the most important aspect of martial arts anyway.
dvcochran
Grandmaster
I do think semantics are at play, but it wasn't the best choice of words.
