Effects of The Killing Of Bin Laden

[Bob Hubbard]

11 attacks on US soil since 1993.
7 confirmed radical Muslim in origin.
3 domestic
1 unknown.

11 attacks, 18 years. .61 per year.
vs car accidents 18k per year
vs 33 US plane crashes since 2005 (5.5/yr)

I feel pretty safe. Except now when driving.

Note: stats do not include the recent series of threats and concerns. Those when included an analyzed may change things significantly.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

so..since 93, aside from ONE big one (Ok city) and some abortion clinics, almost every single terrorist attack has been from a muslim.

but we shouldnt worry about them.....right?

Define worry?

Be alert, pay attention and if need be contact proper authorities, always.

But, live in fear, ruled by paranoia, with wild "oh ****, its a terrorist' level panic every time someone in a turban, Keffiyeh or kaffiyah shows up? Not for me. Thanks.

 

[granfire]

Define worry?

Be alert, pay attention and if need be contact proper authorities, always.

But, live in fear, ruled by paranoia, with wild "oh ****, its a terrorist' level panic every time someone in a turban, Keffiyeh or kaffiyah shows up? Not for me. Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong...the Anthrax scares were not religion based....

 

[granfire]

Define worry?

Be alert, pay attention and if need be contact proper authorities, always.

But, live in fear, ruled by paranoia, with wild "oh ****, its a terrorist' level panic every time someone in a turban, Keffiyeh or kaffiyah shows up? Not for me. Thanks.

Pay attention?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/bomb-squad-blows-up-toy-pony-11583281

 

[Twin Fist]

muslims rarely wear turbans Bob, those are usually sihks

 

[Tez3]

Good advice from World War Two.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

muslims rarely wear turbans Bob, those are usually sihks

Yet how many Sikhs have been harassed since 9/11 because the average American's too lazy to understand the difference? Lost jobs? Been assaulted? Threatened? Removed from flights?

 

[Twin Fist]

no idea, whats more, it is impossible to say , and largely irrelevant.

the threat, however small, is real.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

So, it's ok to harass them?

Because you think there's a threat?
Tell me, how much effort should I expend in preparing for a threat that the odds of it happening to me are 1 in 25 million?

 

[Twin Fist]

did i say it was ok?

 

[Bob Hubbard]

no idea, whats more, it is impossible to say , and largely irrelevant.

the threat, however small, is real.

That was your response, which I take to mean it doesnt matter who is harassed.

 

[Twin Fist]

it is irrelevant to the matter at hand, that is, the threat of muslim terrorism and some people's denial of the same.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

So, confusing someone who isn't a muslim with someone who is, has nothing to do with the threat of muslim terrorism?

 

[Twin Fist]

not directly, no, not to my way of thinking.

you cant win a war if you are too busy worrying about hurting people's feelings in the process

 

[WC_lun]

You also cannot win a war by pidgeon holing your enemy to look and act in one certain manner, when they come in as many forms as we do. Tell me what an IRA terrorist looks like. Or how about a anti-abortian terrorist? An eco-terrorist? In most reported cases of each of these the description starts as caucasion. Yet we do not suspect every caucasian of being one of these types of terrorist because most causasians are not. The same should hold true when it comes to our treatment of Muslims.

 

[MA-Caver]

This is not an attempt to derail my own thread but to carry on with it's original intent.
The death of Osama Bin Laden will have long ranging effects, some which are beginning to show up.

Saudi police: 3 al-Qaida members surrender
– 2 hrs 24 mins ago RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – Saudi Arabia says three al-Qaida members have returned from abroad and turned themselves in.
Interior Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Mansour Al-Turki says the three are not on the nation's most wanted list. In a statement Wednesday, he did not identify them, say from where they returned or when. Some al-Qaida members have fled from Saudi Arabia to Yemen.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_saudi_al_qaida

How many more simply put their guns and suicide vests away and went on back home quietly?
In a way this is good news as it does allow for the fact that killing the leader will help diminish rather expand a terrorist organization. Still it depends largely on how influential and charismatic the new leader is.

 

[Tez3]

It seems Pakistan is receiving the brunt of revenge attacks.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597

 

[MA-Caver]

It seems Pakistan is receiving the brunt of revenge attacks.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13385597

Hmm, could it be that it's retaliation for perceived betrayal?

 

[Tez3]

Hmm, could it be that it's retaliation for perceived betrayal?

I think it could be either/both or just done to scare the locals. There have been many suicide attacks in Pakistan before Bin Laden was killed. There's no consolation though for the families of those killed and wounded.
My thoughts and prayers are with them whatever the reason.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

There has also been a protracted campaign against the Taliban in Pakistan. I'd be more surprised if the attacks were being done by the Irish.