Do you like to fight? WHY?!?!?

[NSRTKD]

I say the more primitive the mind the more you like to fight. The more advanced the mind, or the more learned, the less fighting will occur.(unless it is against someone really annoying)

Liking to fight isn't the same as going around making a lot of fights occur. Many people dislike fighting, yet end up in a lot of them, in my opinion THAT is the less advanced mind, rather than the mind that likes to fight and knows how to, but chooses nonviolence for problem-solving.

 

[NSRTKD]

Man is very poor at fighting compared to say a similarly sized tiger. So why has mankind overpopulated the planet, and some tigers are almost extinct?? Thinking! So I read your post and I think "..people had to THINK to survive..." Hence I don't agree that fighting was that critical to survival.

In survival situations, I think that thinking is the most important part of fighting, not a seperate component to it.

 

[dancingalone]

I say the more primitive the mind the more you like to fight. The more advanced the mind, or the more learned, the less fighting will occur.(unless it is against someone really annoying)

<shrugs> I have a MBA and hold a BS in Engineering and BA in Labor Relations. I like to fight (er, spar or also train/compete against a resistant foe).

 

[msmitht]

Let me make something clear here. When I talk about fighting here, I'm talking about sparring, too. It's fighting in general, not in strict sense. I would hardly defend the idea of people liking to fight in strict sense, because off course nowadays (fortunately) most people don't like to fight. And, when I talk about fighting in a general sense, I guess I can notice the majority here of people enjoy it.Why do we enjoy playing video-games (well, at least some do)? Why have we enjoyed catch-and-run plays when children? I believe it's all in our instincts. Those activities kind of deceive our brains making it feel like we were doing the real thing. The real thing? Well, hardly, but something closer to it. And that's why fighting themes are enjoyed for everyone. The whole plot of appreciated historical human dramas are about fighting somehow, and many times physical fighting. Come on, off course I'm not talking about really fighting to injure some other person.Anyway, I do believe we have a primitive nature, primitive aspects of our mind, and I think denying that could even be just like filling a pressure cooker. Instead, we can deal with that, focusing those primitive aspects in healthy habits, and controlling them.

let me be clear :sparring is not fighting. When you have a referee, scoring system and penalties it is called sport. When some jerk bumps into you, calls you various names and takes a swing at you, that is a fight.

 

[msmitht]

I have a MBA and hold a BS in Engineering and BA in Labor Relations. I like to fight (er, spar or also train/compete against a resistant foe).

guess the little brain in all of us wins sometimes.

 

[Tez3]

let me be clear :sparring is not fighting. When you have a referee, scoring system and penalties it is called sport. When some jerk bumps into you, calls you various names and takes a swing at you, that is a fight.

No, that's them making a big mistake

 

[dancingalone]

guess the little brain in all of us wins sometimes.

Yes, it's called biological determinism. %-}

 

[Cyriacus]

guess the little brain in all of us wins sometimes.

The Hypothalamus, you mean?
Yeah, it can be a very strong aspect of the Brain.

 

[vikings827]

The Hypothalamus, you mean? Yeah, it can be a very strong aspect of the Brain.

More like the limbic system. Hypothalamus stimulates other glands in our bodies.

 

[Cyriacus]

Its worth remembering that the Brain operates on one big, long, Cycle. And I assure you, the Hypothalamus plays a very, very big part in that Process. More so than just being a stimulant.

More like the limbic system. Hypothalamus stimulates other glands in our bodies.

"The hypothalamus and periaqueductal gray of the midbrain are the most critical areas controlling aggression in mammals, as shown in studies on cats, rats, and monkeys. These brain areas control the expression of all the behavioral and autonomic components of aggression in these species, including vocalization. They have direct connections with both the brainstem nuclei controlling these functions and areas such as the amygdala and prefrontal cortex.Electrical stimulation of the hypothalamus causes aggressive behavior[SUP][34][/SUP] the hypothalamus expresses receptors that help determine aggression levels based on their interactions with the neurotransmitters serotonin and vasopressin.[SUP][35]"

"[/SUP]The neurotransmitter vasopressin causes an increase in aggressive behavior when present in large amounts in the anterior hypothalamus (Delville et al. 1997). The effects of norepinephrine, cortisol, and other neurotransmitters are still being studied."

"The hypothalamus affects the endocrine system and governs emotional behavior, such as anger and sexual activity. Most of the hypothalamic hormones generated are distributed to the pituitary via the hypophyseal portal system.[SUP][11][/SUP] The hypothalamus maintains homeostasis; this includes a regulation of blood pressure, heart rate, and temperature."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS_qMHPI0XM

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/human-biology/fear2.htm

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/fight_flight/

http://www.ehow.com/list_6907783_parts-brain-involved-fight-flight.html

 

[vikings827]

Its worth remembering that the Brain operates on one big, long, Cycle. And I assure you, the Hypothalamus plays a very, very big part in that Process. More so than just being a stimulant.


"The hypothalamus and periaqueductal gray of the midbrain are the most critical areas controlling aggression in mammals, as shown in studies on cats, rats, and monkeys. These brain areas control the expression of all the behavioral and autonomic components of aggression in these species, including vocalization. They have direct connections with both the brainstem nuclei controlling these functions and areas such as the amygdala and prefrontal cortex.Electrical stimulation of the hypothalamus causes aggressive behavior[SUP][34][/SUP] the hypothalamus expresses receptors that help determine aggression levels based on their interactions with the neurotransmitters serotonin and vasopressin.[SUP][35]"

"[/SUP]The neurotransmitter vasopressin causes an increase in aggressive behavior when present in large amounts in the anterior hypothalamus (Delville et al. 1997). The effects of norepinephrine, cortisol, and other neurotransmitters are still being studied."

"The hypothalamus affects the endocrine system and governs emotional behavior, such as anger and sexual activity. Most of the hypothalamic hormones generated are distributed to the pituitary via the hypophyseal portal system.[SUP][11][/SUP] The hypothalamus maintains homeostasis; this includes a regulation of blood pressure, heart rate, and temperature."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS_qMHPI0XM

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/human-biology/fear2.htm

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/fight_flight/

http://www.ehow.com/list_6907783_parts-brain-involved-fight-flight.html

You are correct, hypothalamus mostly is an activator. Not the source.

 

[vikings827]

Do you teach biology??

 

[vikings827]

You are correct, hypothalamus mostly is an activator. Not the source.

ie, the stimulus is in the form of trophic hormones sent to various physical etities as you described. The emotional reaction of the stimulus varies from individual to individual. The core of the emotional reaction is limbic.

 

[Cyriacus]

ie, the stimulus is in the form of trophic hormones sent to various physical etities as you described. The emotional reaction of the stimulus varies from individual to individual. The core of the emotional reaction is limbic.

I see the Issue here -- Were looking at this differently.

The Hypothalamus is an Activator, yes. But what youve said is that the Lymbic System, rather, is the Initiator, and therefore the Source.

What Im saying, is that the Lymbic System has no care for Emotion, or Feeling. It is Triggered by a Feeling, and in turn activates the Hypothalamus, and a couple of other things. The Hypothalamus then creates the Chain Reactions all over the Body. And those parts of the Body are what do anything.

Youre narrowing that down to "The Lymic System Starts It", and Im narrowing it down to "The Hypothalamus Creates The Effect, Essentially".


Also, why would I need to teach Biology?
Do you have to be Teaching MA in order to be able to have a pretty good idea of what youre talking about?

 

[vikings827]

I see the Issue here -- Were looking at this differently.

The Hypothalamus is an Activator, yes. But what youve said is that the Lymbic System, rather, is the Initiator, and therefore the Source.

What Im saying, is that the Lymbic System has no care for Emotion, or Feeling. It is Triggered by a Feeling, and in turn activates the Hypothalamus, and a couple of other things. The Hypothalamus then creates the Chain Reactions all over the Body. And those parts of the Body are what do anything.

Youre narrowing that down to "The Lymic System Starts It", and Im narrowing it down to "The Hypothalamus Creates The Effect, Essentially".


Also, why would I need to teach Biology?
Do you have to be Teaching MA in order to be able to have a pretty good idea of what youre talking about?

No you don't have to be teaching MA to have a very good idea of what you are talking about. You are correct. And you are also correct we are looking at this differently. I liked our discussion.

 

[Cyriacus]

No you don't have to be teaching MA to have a very good idea of what you are talking about. You are correct. And you are also correct we are looking at this differently. I liked our discussion.

As did I, My Good Man

 

[vikings827]

I don't want to kill this thread. The question is a great one. I love to fight because it gives me a great outlet for sitting on my rear end all day. My younger brother got me back into it. I had a 35 year layoff, and have been at it again for a year.

 

[ballen0351]

do I like to fight? NO

Why? Cause it Hurts

 

[Tez3]

do I like to fight? NO

Why? Cause it Hurts

Perhaps you're not doing it right?

 

[Cyriacus]

do I like to fight? NO

Why? Cause it Hurts

Yeah, youre doing it wrong