Do you know your Kenpo lineage?

[kenpostart]

Hi there,

my lineage is:

Mr. Ed Parker Sr. -> Mr. Rainer Schulte (see "The Journey") -> Mr. Christian Springer (promoted from 1st up to 4th Degree by Mr. Ed Parker Sr.)

-> Mr. Thomas Kozitzky (tested and promoted for his 1st Degree by Mr. Ed Parker Sr.)
-> Mr. Sascha Berning and Mr. Peter Gorski (tested and promoted to brown by Mr. Ed Parker Sr.)

Okay, I see, my trainer are 4th Generation Black Belts.

 

[jdinca]

Ed Parker > Al Tracy > Richard Lee > John Buckley > Morgan Newman > Morgan Malone > Me. The three below Richard Lee are a Master and 3rd, 1st degree BBs, respectively in our system.

 

[hemi]

James M. Mitose
Koga Ha Kosho Shorei-Ryu Kempo Jujitsu​

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William K.S. Chow​

Thomas S.H. Young​

Paul Yamaguchi​

Edward Lowe​

Arthur Keawe​

Woodrow McCandles​

Giro Nakamura​

Eugene Sedeño​

John Chow-Hoon​

Ray Arquilla​

Bruce Juchnik​

Thomas B. Mitose​

Arnold M. Golub​

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William K.S. Chow
Chinese Kara-Ho Kempo​

Adriano Emperado​

Joe Emperado​

Edmund K. Parker, Sr.​

Masaichi Oshiro​

William Q.C. Chun​

Abe Kamahoahoa​

John Chun​

Ralph Castro​

Paul Pung​

Bobby Lowe​

John Chow-Hoon​

Nick Cerio​

Sam Kuoha​

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Edmund K. Parker, Sr.
Ame​

Steve Aaron​

Brian Adams​

Mike Allen​

Terry Arnell​

Jack Autry​

Richard Beckinger​

Charles Beeder, Sr.​

Tom Bleecker​

Ed Booze​

Fred Brewster​

Tommy Burks​

Dave Cardinas​

Richard Carthew​

Rudy Castenada​

Ralph Castellanos​

Ralph Castro​

Ron Chapél​

Stan Cholewinski​

David Cineceros​

Judy Clapp​

Jim Clapp​

Harvey Clary​

Tony Cogliandro​

Wayne Collier​

Dennis Conatser​

Tom Connor​

Lincoln Conti​

Phil Conti​

John Conway, Sr.​

John Conway, Jr.​

Robert Cook​

Lonny Coots​

Albert Cornejo​

Mills Crenshaw​

Paul Dalton​

Jim Demeke​

Joe Dimmick​

George Downs​

Brian Duffy​

Tom Dunne​

Bob Eisele​

Larry Elkins​

Gary Ellis​

Jeff English​

Sam Estrada​

Jack Farr​

Russ Feinman​

Refugio Flores​

Jesus Flores​

Rick Flores​

Steve Fox​

Jim Furuya​

Tom Garriga​

Robert Gemmell​

David German​

Robert Gioia​

Steve Golden​

Dave Gonzales​

Keith Gorham​

Tom Gow​

Jim Grunwald​

Skip Hancock​

Melvin Harris​

Larry Hartsell​

Bryan Hawkins​

Steve Hearring​

David Hebler​

Hans Hesselmann​

Gil Hibben​

Vern Holleman​

Tom Howard​

Rick Hughes​

Harry Hutchings​

James Ibrao​

Dan Inosanto​

Arnie Inouye​

Thomas Kelly​

Chris Krivonak​

John LaTourette​

Stephen LaBounty​

Dan Laxson​

Jerry Leichtman​

Graham Lelliott​

Vic LeRoux​

Robert Liles​

Scott Loring​

Roy MacDonald​

Randy Margeson​

Leonard Mau​

Craig W. McCoy​

Douglas McLeod​

John McSweeney​

Roger Meadows​

Jerry Meyers​

Paul Mills​

Jim Mitchell​

Robert Mitchell​

Jorge Montanez​

Rich Montgomery​

Frank Mulrine​

Calvin Nall​

Ray Nehder​

Roy Nishita​

Jack Oyler​

Joe Palanzo​

Norm Pattiz​

Sterling Peacock​

George Pegelow​

Robert Perry​

Arturo Petit​

Michael Pick​

Richard "Huk" Planas​

Dave Powell​

Elvis Presley​

Paul Psik​

Manny Reyes​

Tom Riskas​

Dan Rodarte​

Richard Roper​

Sandy Sandavol​

Steve Sanders​

Tony Sartor​

Rainer Schulte​

Keith See​

John Sepulveda​

Howard Silva​

Steve Snelson​

Louie Solis​

Deon Steckling​

Herb Steet​

Richard Stelle​

Willie Steele​

Fred Stille​

Brian Strain​

Randy Streeter​

Chuck Sullivan​

Ed Tabian​

Dian Tanaka​

Ming Tang​

Larry Tatum​

Ray Tillery​

Al Tracy​

Jim Tracy​

Frank Trejo​

Jim Trevino​

Tino Tuiolosega​

Gilbert Velez​

George Waite​

Dale Walker​

Steve Walker​

Lee Wedlake, Jr.​

Craig Weidell​

Ed Wenke​

Jack White​

Robert White​

Roscoe White​

Jay T. Will​

Ron Wilstein​

rican Kenpo​

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Al Tracy
Tracy's Kenpo Karate​

John Alexandro​

Hugh Alford​

John Allen​

Robert Alsted​

Jorge J. Angulo​

Roger Arpin​

Ray Arquilla​

Gary Avery​

Daniel R. Babcock​

Herbert H. Baker​

Kenneth A. Baker​

Steve Ballentine​

Shane L. Baltierra​

David Barnes​

Michael D. Barnes​

Ellwood G. Barnhardt​

Daemian B. Barr​

Mary Basic​

Jerry Baumgarten​

Rocky Bavuso​

Pete Becker​

Stephen Bellfontaine​

Pedro Bennett, Jr.​

Larry Bennett​

Craig Bentley​

Tom Bersick​

Harry W. Beyer​

Maria Biasiotto​

Robert Blackmoore​

Rex Blaine​

Patrick K. Blevins​

George Blolsky​

Thomas R. Bocock​

Milt Bollinger​

Paul Bonner​

Bill Boyd​

Curtis Bradley​

Ike Branch​

Jorn Brandt​

Lis Marie Brandt​

Rick Brasseaux​

Michael R. Bredehoft​

Kevin Bricker​

Randall Brown​

William W. Brown​

Mike Browning​

Norm Bryar​

Frederick Buck​

David Buker​

Timothy N. Bulot​

Michael L. Burrell​

Stephen E. Bush​

John Buyers​

Bart Caccavale​

Mike Cappi​

David Cardinas​

Donnie L. Carmack​

Jeff Carter​

Rich Carter​

Ricardo Castillo​

Dean Chapman​

Lou Chavez​

Eric Chet​

Ralph Chinnick​

Michael Chong​

James Ciotti​

Cliff Close​

Donald J. Coffield​

Mark Collins​

Terry G. Conrad​

Bruce Corrigan​

James Craig​

Karen Crosby​

Guy H. Crump​

Richard C. Cupo​

Keith Curts​

Greg Damon​

Michael F. Dancull​

Greg Daniels​

Jefferson Davis​

Michael Dawson​

Guy Delahoussaye​

Pete Dellapozza​

John J. DeLuca​

Larry Demerit​

Joseph Deuschel​

Elroy DeVoll​

Rick Keith DeVoll​

William L. DiCarlo​

Victor J. Diodato​

John A. Dixon​

Arthur C. Doepke, Jr.​

Chuck Dore​

Jerry Dunlap​

Travis Dunlap​

Thomas Dunne​

John E. Ellis​

Russ Ernst​

Darraly Escalante​

Daniel M. Farmer​

Al Farnsworth​

Perry Ferlise​

Steve Fink​

Rodney Finn​

Steven W. Finn​

John Fite​

George Flanagan​

Bernie W. Fleeman​

Keven Frandsen​

Dale Freeman​

Dennis Freeman​

Mark Fulmer​

Gary Garrett​

Steven Geotsglitis​

Steve Gerhardt​

Robert G. Gibbons​

Jeffrey Gibbs​

David P. Giomi​

Gary Gione​

Charles Glenn​

Tim Golby​

Roland Gonzales​

Eugene Gorden​

William Gordon​

Keith Gorham​

Raymond A. Gosk​

Greg Gram​

Tom Graves​

Smoky Gray Eagle​

Karen Conley Greene​

Roger W. Greene​

Hector Guevara​

Milton Guinette​

Steve Hagen​

Grant Hagiya​

Michael D. Hagood​

Garrison Hall​

Douglas E. Hamilton​

James Hanna​

Ronald K. Hanzel​

James Harbour​

Dave Hardenbrook​

Rick Harper​

Paul M. Harrington​

David Harrison​

Mark Hastings​

Paul Healey​

Robert H. Hegamin​

Jeffrey S. Heintz​

Michael Heintz​

William A. Hensel​

Hans Hesselmann​

Carson Hines​

David Holsclaw​

Al Hooper​

David C. Hopper​

Gary Horner​

Harry Houghtlan​

Sue Huffman​

Brian Hulse​

Harry Hutchins​

Betty Hutton​

Jeanne Hutton​

Ben Izaguirre​

Jerry Jacabsen​

Joe Jacques​

Barry Jenkins​

Cliff Jewell​

Carl L. Johnson​

Frank Johnson​

James H. Johnson​

Eddie Jolly​

Kregg P.G. Jorgenson​

Stephen R. Kane​

Richard Kennedy​

Datis Kharrazian​

Brian Klein​

Larry Klinehberg​

Ray Klingenberg​

Marty Kuhn​

Stephen LaBounty​

Roy Lake​

Anthony D. Lamberti​

Brian Lamkin​

Kevin D. Lamkin​

Richard Langenstein​

Douglas Lankford​

John LaTourette​

Dennis Laycock​

Richard Lee​

Bob Leonard​

Julian Linder​

Edward Listman​

Sam Lone Wolf​

Gordon Loos​

Augustine Lopez​

William Lowry​

Jesse Lucero, Sr.​

Rockwell P. Ludden​

Ted Mancuso​

Andrew Mantis​

John S. Manuse, Jr.​

Michael Marcus​

Marcus A. Marinelli​

Michael Marks​

Angel G. Martial​

Marty Martin​

Edgar Masone​

Charles C. Masters​

Ted Masuda​

Greg Mattson​

Gary Maust​

Milan Maximovich​

Ned G. Maxwell II​

Glennis J. McClure​

Kenneth McGuire​

Paul McKay​

Jeffery D. McLachlan​

Joe McLean​

Douglas McLeod​

Ernest G. McPeek​

Greg McPherson​

John McTernan​

Stephen P. Meichtry​

Jim Miller​

Mark Miller​

Jim Mitchell​

Doug Mooney​

Jess Mora​

Joe Mora​

John Moran​

Thomas Morgan​

Rebecca Mornar​

Gregory Mosley​

Jerry Mourtasine​

Gary W. Moxley​

Pat Munk​

Larry Murray​

Dennis Nackord​

Desmond G. Nash​

John Patrick Nieto​

Dave Noble​

John Odegard​

Paul Olivas​

Mike Olson​

Patrick O'Malley​

James Onorato​

Kevin Orlow​

Kenneth Ortner​

Raymond D. Ott​

Richard Ouimette​

Timothy Paffe​

Charles A. Palmer​

Johnothan Pantoja​

John Pardoe​

Gus Parera​

Roshan Parikh​

Kwinam Park​

Ralph L. Parris​

Gary Patchell​

Scott E. Pederson​

Debra E. Perea​

Jesus M. Perea​

Michael Pereira, Jr.​

John Piddock​

Michael Pinelli​

Darryl Pinto​

Michael R. Plowman​

Carl Plummer​

John Pogliani​

John Pollock​

Mike Poz​

Rudy Prikken​

Sey Rapport​

Jim Rathbone​

Larry Reid​

Larry Reinhardt​

David Repetny​

Charles B. Reynolds​

Dave Roberts​

Jerry Roberts​

Mike Roberts​

Lanny A. Roedel​

Patrick Rooney​

Isaiah Omar Saleem​

Jerry Samuelson​

Mike Sanders​

Teresa Sanders​

Steven Scardina​

Ronald A. Scott​

Brian Selser​

Terry Shackleford​

Wayne Shamblin​

Jack C. Shamburger​

Stephen M. Shover​

Marshall D. Simmons​

Joe Simonet​

Jan Small​

Jerry Smith​

Thomas C. Spellman​

Joe Spivey​

Charles Stanley​

Nelson Starker​

Paul Stevens​

Dave Stewart​

James R. Stewart​

Jodi Stith​

Scott Stolivack​

Mark Striner​

Debbie Sumner​

Keith Sumner​

Theodore L. Sumner​

Walter Tanimoto​

Manuel Taningeo​

Hank Taylor​

Will Taylor​

Tim Teausant​

Brad Terzian​

William C. Thacker​

Lee H. Thompson​

James Tidwell​

John Tieman​

Dennis A. Tio​

Mike Tipple​

Brian Todd​

Tim Toeniskoetter​

John Tollow​

Thaddeus Tomeski, Jr.​

Lee Toren​

Jerome W. Totes​

Mark G. Tracy​

Patricia A. Tracy​

Jim Trevino​

Chris Trujillo​

Greg Tudor​

Jeffrey Tuinstra​

Dennis Tustin​

Brent Undermann​

Bart Vale​

Nick Vales​

James K. Van Sickle​

Robert L. Vaughn​

Anthony F. Verburgt​

Carmen Vigliotti​

Gilbert Villerreal​

Kenneth Vineyard​

Paul Wagner​

Robert S. Watine​

Robert E. Weger​

Elgene Wheeler​

Frank C. Wilkes​

Jay T. Will​

Richard Willett​

David L. Williams​

Robert C. Willis​

Jeff Wilson​

Jim Wilson​

Phillip S. Wimberly​

Robert W. Winters​

James Wonser​

Donald W. Wood​

John J. Wos​

Robert Yard​

Bill Yazel​

George York​

Tony Zitko​

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Eddie Jolly
Tracy's Kenpo Karate​

Keith Gorham​

Mark King​

Joanne L. Reyna​

Jonathan Scott​

Debbie Sumner​

Keith Sumner​

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Keith Gorham
American Kenpo ​

Phillip Bulloch​

Nathan Coleman​

John Connolly​

Sherri Downs​

Reggi Estes​

Brian Evans​

Bill Fischer​

Johnny Fowler​

Ron Gentolizo​

Alex Giles​

Walter Gilliam​

Eddie Gorham​

Keith Grandin​

Brad Gruber​

Jose Guadalupe​

Nate Hawley​

Tracie Kester​

Brandon Lemons​

Tony Leopold​

Brad Marshall​

Ray McKinney​

Troy Moak​

Eric Reynolds​

Leslie Roach​

Jim Roccasano​

Jason Spoolstra​

Alex Tauzel​

Richard Townsend​

Andy Yamasaki​

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And a long way from Black Belt, Me Phil Schoen

I was lucky enough to find a website (on the advice of Brother John, a thread he posted on Kenpo Talk) that had all this information listed. I found it very interesting to see my place in the huge Kenpo family.

I also want to again make it clear that I am in no way taking any credit for all the research that went into this list of Lineage’s I just though it might be useful to others.

 

[hemi]

Sorry about how that came out. When I did it all in Word it was in paragraphed form and had the names in my linage highlighted. When I clicked post it came out the way it is and takes up most of one page. Anyone know how I can repair and repost that thread?

 

[bayonet]

Dude...Yes I would dare to say that it goes from...SGM Parker..Mr. Planas..Mr Chuck Epperson..Harry Lamphere to us....although we ALL (students) study Mr. Tatum's videos. Why you ask? Any man that taught under Mr. Parker for nearly twenty years knows the techs....and Mr. Huk has not finished his tech...series. :erg:then we won't have to hear "who taught you that":rofl: We can say.. Mr. Huk.. Your DVD..........

 

[Jimi]

I am not sure of my Kenpo/Kenbo Lineage. I have considered myself a bastard black belt for quite some time. In the mid 1980's I was training in the D.C. Metro area with my first Sensei Nidan Randy Wozin. He introduced me to a visiting Instructor Sensei Henry Sotelo who at the time was a 5th Dan. He showed us such wonderfull techniques that were very good for street defense and he called it Kajukenbo. He told us he grew up in Hawaii and began learning from his Grandfather then at around 12 -13 he moved to Los Angeles. He also said he had trained in Ed Parkers System and had achieved his 6th dan By 1987. In 1987 he returned to the area for a short while and we trained for a couple of weekends. I told him of my disappointment over my failure in my first attempt at 1st Dan testing, at which he was a judging Black Belt. He gifted me with his black belt right off his waist and said he would keep in touch after he returned to Los Angeles so he could send me certification. I did not here from him, then I heard from an old training partner that he had died. Since then people who also knew him were upset when they learned that I possessed his Black Belt, claiming I had no right to have it. These people included Sensei Randy Wozin, Sensei Steve "Nasty" Anderson among others. I do not know who trained him, or what association certifited him. My last try at finding out lead me to find that Grandmaster Ted Sotelo was no relation to him, in fact he had never hreard of him. I still have his Black Belt in a place of Honor in my home. I feel lost in trying to find where this insightfull knowledge came from. I am not seeking rank or certification, I just want to know that my faith in him was well founded. If anyone knows about Henry Sotelo please post any info you might have. Thank you for hearing me out. Long live Kenpo. J. Linkins

 

[IWishToLearn]

Not EPAK, but still Kenpo:

SGM Parker -> SGM Sullivan -> GM Le Roux

I also pick the brain of Dr. Chapel any chance I get.

 

[fmusto]

I have become increasingly fascinated with the lineage. I find it extremely interesting to see who was with who and the different falling out they have had. It is really important that you understand where your teacher has been to see where you are going. My instructor is not only an amazing martail artist, but he lives for the history as I do. I feel the martial arts has its roots with the intellect first then the body second.

 

[Carol]

Perhaps I'm beginning to feel the opposite. I'm becoming increasingly disillusioned with the idea of lineage. I can't shape my lineage in to a line. Sure, my instructor teaches me new things and motivates me to train, but so do all of you. Yes, my art is EPAK-based, but it was a couple of incredibly inspiring discussions with a Tracy black belt that opened my eyes at a very pivotal time.

It is interesting to learn more about why and how my instructor learned his art. It's also interesting to learn about how others learned their art...and I want to learn more about both. But, this is very difficult to do when Kenpo different lineages get warped in to a caste-like denigration.

 

[bushidomartialarts]

(boddhisatva)

(shaolin monestary)

(okinawa)

(japan)

james mitose

william chow

ed parker

al tracy dave hebler

milt guinette tom conner me

me bill packer

lee sprague

me

 

[stone_dragone]

Not EPAK, but still Kenpo:

SGM Parker -> SGM Sullivan -> GM Le Roux

Me too.

Mitose >> Chow >> Parker >> Sullivan >> LeRoux >> Brooksher >> lil ole me

 

[seca2man]

Not sure if anyone will recognize these names, but here's my limited lineage:

1987-1993
Ed Parker>>Steve Fox, Huk Planas>>Craig McCoy>>me and a bunch of other kids at UC DAvis

1993- 2006
The empty years!

2006
Tom Porter>>me

 

[distalero]

I don't think you and I know each other, but if you have the occasion to see Steve, or McCoy, say "Hi from older Dave, not younger Dave".

 

[Kraiguar]

Great Grandmaster Ed Parker
Grandmaster Steve Muhammad
Mr. Ted Taylor
Mr. Steve Herring
Mr. Jerry Smith
Professor Ron Chapel

What an amazing journey.

Peace and Blessings,
Kraiguar

 

[PandN]

I can trace my lineage back to Mr. Parker

Mr. Mark Schiffman
Mr. Richard "Huk" Planas
Mr. Ed Parker

 

[INDYFIGHTER]

I'm in my forth year of weekly private lessons with my instructor. We just started brown 1 material and I've never gotten a certificate, belt, patch or even a test. Some will probably have issues with that but for me it's been absolutely perfect. When we get to the end of a belt he looks at me and asks if I want to move on and I always say "Lets do it one more time." and we start the belt over again. My instructor has dvd's with him going through each belt. They are $20 a dvd (belt). Once a week I go over what he showed me that week. Honestly I can't even tell you if it's Parker or Tracy. I think it's Parker. Anyway, doesn't matter. I know what I've learned and as long as it comes out when I need it then I've gotten my moneys worth.

 

[OneKickWonder]

I do know that my instructor Zac Strickland was taught by Dr. James Tindall. I do not know who his instructor was but I know he was taught by Mr. Parker. I am interested to know though.

 

[airdawg]

I am third generation, if you count the founder as first generation.

 

[MSTCNC]

Here's mine... circa 1982-1984:

Sr. Grandmaster Edmund K. Parker, to

Al & Jim Tracy, to

Ray Kligenberg, to

Dennis Nackord, to

Jim Klapp (Newark, DE), to

Pat Caputo (Wilmington, DE), to

Me

The other two local schools in the area are run by a Blackbelt of either Mr. Klapp... or Mr. Caputo... so, I guess that makes all the American Kenpo here in DE Tracy System... as opposed to EPAK... does that sound correct?

Not commenting on anything... just trying to verify what my 8th Kyu is actually in...

As for the future... I have no idea where I will start my return to American Kenpo... and whether or not I will return to AKS, look into Karate USA, or go talk to the Movement Workshop folk... or look for an EPAK school elsewhere...

Your Brother in the arts,

Andrew

 

[MSTCNC]

... so, I guess that makes all the American Kenpo [schools] here in DE Tracy System... as opposed to EPAK... does that sound correct?

Not commenting on anything... just trying to verify what my 8th Kyu is actually in...

OK... I ended up answering my own question here...

I looked at the ciriculum from Mr. Caputo's school... and compared the terms to the x-reference I re-formatted for our Canadian friend... and they're Tracy terms...

Also, on Mr. Klapp's website.. it lists the history of AKS... and it states that the Concord Pike AKS school (my old training hall) was originaly a Tracy School... and then converted to an American Kenpo Studio school when the Tracy's changed their name... prior to the release of the franchisees...

Mr. Klapp then bought the school from Mr. Nackord... and he, in turn, hired Mr. Caputo to run the school... so he could open the Newark, DE location...

So, know I am now 100% sure of the lineage of my previous training in American Kenpo!

artyon: artyon: artyon:

<sigh>

OK, one down! :ultracool

Your Brother in the arts,

Andrew