Nebuchadnezzar
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Wait a minute, you're using this site http://www.shaolin.com/Shaolin_training_info.aspx as your frame of reference to convince us that Crab Style was real?
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Oh no you didn't..... oh yes you did:disgust:.... Oh WHY did you have to bring that up.. now I won't sleep or eat for a week... :uhyeah:
Heh, heh, heh. Serves you right for showing off your inside advantage at having a wife who practices TCM! :lol:
Wait a minute, you're using this site http://www.shaolin.com/Shaolin_training_info.aspx as your frame of reference to convince us that Crab Style was real?
Because it's a game, it's good marketing and again it's a GAME! There are no Jedi and yet there is a fighting style for the Jedi that was created for the movies based on Kendo, and a little movie kung fu mixed into it for the movies that came after Return of the Jedi.
Fights are choreagraphed for movies ALL THE TIME. Avatar has four styles that are noted, Fire Bending, Air Bending, Water Bending ad Earth Bending. The styles don't exist but you can see them being performed by the characters.
Let's not forget the 80's movie "Gymkata". Then again, I wish I could forget it.
Nebuchadnezzar said:Because it's a game, it's good marketing and again it's a GAME!
Nebuchadnezzar said:Wait a minute, you're using this site http://www.shaolin.com/Shaolin_training_info.aspx as your frame of reference to convince us that Crab Style was real?
Actually, the Avatar styles are all based on real kung fu styles:
Fire Bending - Northern Shaolin
Water Bending - Tai Chi
Air Bending - Bagua
Earth Bending - Hung Gar, although Toph has been noted to have characteristics of Soutehrn Mantis in her movements
There are some more die hard Avatar fans at my school who have picked out some forms and techniques which lend credence to these claims.
*sigh*
Allow me to stress this point...yet again. Am I typing in English? It looks like I am. This is like the freakin' Twilight Zone, I swear.
The MK game I am referring to, included, but was not limited to, the FOLLOWING REAL (AUTHENTIC) MARTIAL ARTS STYLES...
Kenpo, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai, Mizong, Jeet Kune Do, Wing Chun, Judo, Mantis, Snake, Crane, Escrima, Tang Soo Do, Jujutsu, Nanquan, Hung Gar, Hapkido, Shotokan, Dragon, Ninjutsu, Sambo, San Shou, Tai Chi, Shuai Jiao, Sumo, Wrestling, Tong Bei Quan, and more.
SO...the fact it is a GAME...ALL of these styles must be fake! I've been fooled! GASP! Apparently I'm not the only one! Geeze...MK fooled people so badly, MT has dedicated forums to most of these bogus styles! Woe to us all! We've been tricked!
I couldn't see WHY they would throw in ALL real martial arts styles, and then feel it necessary to throw in ONE that's completely fake. My interest was sparked by this Crab style, so I did a little digging. Apparently, I'm not the ONLY ONE who thought it could possibly have been a style. There IS information on it, and someone's even inquired about it here at MT back in 2002.
[sarcasm]How GULLIBLE of me.[/sarcasm]
Have you even decided to READ what's been going on so far in this thread? You should try it.
I'm not trying to convince ANYONE it's a style. So far, the only people trying to convince anyone of anything here are those trying to convince ME that it's never existed. Based off of what evidence? NONE of any substance.
I simply noted that Shaolin.com makes mention to Crab Kung Fu, as do a few other sources, so I'm not just taking everyone for a ride here. I'm not talking about frickin' Clam Kung Fu, people. I'm not pulling something out of my rear. There's enough reason to believe that this style could've existed. Anyone who claims it's BS has nothing of actual substance to provide to secure their claim.
I came here asking if anyone knew anything about it. That's it.
Sorry if I seem just a tad discourteous, but I came seeking information. Give me something to work with, people. The fact that crabs taste good and you can squish one beneath your foot doesn't debunk the fact it could've existed as a martial arts style, but that's what I've been given to deal with.
Nebuchadnezzar said:Your statements and the attitude you're displaying show that you are indeed trying to convince us that it exists or at least at one time existed and you've used that pitful website as your frame of reference in more than one of your posts.
Archangel M said:Video Games are not valid sources of research data.
newtothe dark said:No lightning bolts, no Fatality moves, nobody with 6 arms.
Real life Kung Fu is about dedicated training and a great teacher / student relationship.
If you've played any of the more recent MK games, you realize that they have martial artists performing the attacks for each individual style (it's in the bonus sections of the game). Each style they placed into the game is an actual art. I couldn't see them tossing in one that didn't exist. There's enough evidence to show that Crab Kung Fu was once a true form, and now it's been dissolved and given to other forms. I just want to know why.
Anyone know anything about it really? I've done some searching online, and I know it's a dead art now, but does anyone know anything really in depth about it? It's always interested me.
I'd love to be able to go and find out more about it. I can't imagine getting pinched by a master of crab kung fu. Phew.
I first found out about it through Mortal Kombat. In Deadly Alliance, Reptile had two martial arts that he could use...Hung Gar and Crab Kung Fu.
I loved the look, and decided to research it, and discovered either through the game's information, or the internet, that it was a dead art.
I also found a bit from Shaolin.com...
"Crab is now a dead system of kung fu, the remnants of which were incorporated into eagle, hong tiger and white eyebrow. Practitioners fought from a low, crouching scissors stance and used great wrist and forearm strength to attack nerves or cut off circulation with the crab pincer."
It sounds effective enough. I just wish I knew how/why it died and divided. I've yet to find any information on it.
Only one flaw in your genius conclusion. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm trying to find information on it. There have been a select few that actually gave me any information whatsoever. I really don't give a damn if you think it was a style or not. I seek a reason behind as to why it's foolish to think it was ever a form...and no one can give me anything relatively close to a real answer. Because you can't come up with any decent evidence as to the fact that crab never existed, you're deciding to attack the sources I've found that display information on it. Congratulations.
Have I ONCE stated anything like, "Yeah, but guys, Shaolin.com says stuff about it, so it MUST have been real!"
No, actually I've admitted that it's possible it never was. So I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I'm just trying to see if any Kung Fu-savvy people have ever heard of it or have any information. Then people like you come and hijack the thread. Very good.
Yeah...kinda know that. Hence why I'm here trying to find some more information on the subject from REAL people that REALLY know Kung Fu. Again...whoops! My mistake. You've proven nothing.
And this debunks the existence of the crab form how exactly? The facts you just threw out there we all know. I'm seeking info to see if anyone knows of crab kung fu, not how to shoot lightning bolts from your hands, perform "fatality moves", or grow another four arms.
You associate other unrealistic aspects of the game and use that as your defense.
"Hey, I saw crab kung fu as a style, among all other real styles used in MK. Anyone here, in the Kung Fu forum, know anything about it?"
"It's impossible to shoot lightning from your eyes! It must never have existed!"
"Point proven!"
Sorry, but if you're going to convince me that crab kung fu is a ridiculous notion, you're all going to have to do MUCH better than that.
But as of what it looks like so far, you can't.
Zeno said:I wanted more information on the style known as Crab Kung Fu. If Shaolin.com mentions it, I doubt I'm the only one out there thinking that it COULD have existed, no matter how short lived it may have been. I can't say I know for a fact, because I don't.
Archangel M said:Ive had discussions with my friends teenaged son and my own nephews that were eerily similar. The immersion in video games is blurring their concept of reality/fantasy.
Xue Sheng said:I applaud your sticking to the quest but without more proof beyond what has been presented I am incline to say it is fake